Tom O'Rourke: James J. Jeffries was Greatly Overrated. Agree or Disagree?

[HOUDINI563]

Horse hair filled gloves are like bricks in general. I’d never want to be hit by fists encased in my Everlast 6 oz gloves from the 60’s. This is one reason they are sitting in their original box unused.

However no chance you are manipulating the stuffing in those gloves to produce more knuckle to opponent contact.

[travestyny]

Horse hair filled gloves are like bricks in general. I’d never want to be hit by fists encased in my Everlast 6 oz gloves from the 60’s. This is one reason they are sitting in their original box unused.

However no chance you are manipulating the stuffing in those gloves to produce more knuckle to opponent contact.

Well my friend, we have your word against the word of various professional boxers, trainers, and cutmen, at least one of which is a glove manufacturer. Someone has to be wrong


This is from a NY Times article:

Often called punchers' gloves, the Reyes brand has been popular among trainers and fighters because the horsehair could be moved around and pushed back toward the wrist, leaving the knuckle and hand area with less cushion, and a harder impact. During the fight, the horsehair also slides around underneath the surface of the glove into small clusters, which can be effective when attempting to open a cut on another fighter's face.

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/24/s...they-wear.html

[Willie Pep 229]

Well my friend, we have your word against the word of various professional boxers, trainers, and cutmen, at least one of which is a glove manufacturer. Someone has to be wrong


This is from a NY Times article:

Good article - for what it is worth when I was young one didn't speak of the Reyes being manipulated but that they were designed with the eight ounces of padding more evenly distributed across the glove with Everlast having the majority of the padding to the front. - but that was 1970s talk- the TV announcers use to poo - poo Reyes gloves claiming they caused more cuts becuse there was, by design, less padding at the knuckles. Doesn't mean they couldn't be manipulated I'm not arguing that but at that time it was thought of as a Mexican glove that puncher's liked becuse it already had less padding at the knuckles.

There was another Mexican glove that may have been a Reyes but I'm not sure - that had unnecessary lacing runing along the edge of the glove from wrist to where the knuckles started. I believe it was ban in the US and was thought to be designed to deliberately cause more cuts. I have not seen the gloves in decades and wonder if that was the true motivation for their design