Frazier reminds me of La Motta

[War Room]

Do you know what semantics means?

Do you know what nemesis means?

A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by me.

Yea I do, semantics means: the meaning of a word or the study of meanings which you clearly have a loose grip on. You can't make up your own definitions and this clearly shows you'll never accept defeat. I've thoroughly defeated you with your own words and now you're looking for a way out. Kind of reminds me of Prograis vs Redkach.

From that entire post of devastating effect, you choose to focus on one single word which you don't know the meaning of and are now trying to twist the result in your favor with simple parlor tricks. Not going to happen. Try this: learn words, get better, make more sense. We'll pick this up when you get your levels up. Have a great weekend!

[billeau2]

Do you know what semantics means?

Why waste time with this poster? He did not even address the substance of you post... Just seems to want to take a quick dump in the history section.

[billeau2]

Of course you can, do you even know what nostalgia means? Literally: a sentimental longing or wistful affection for the past. Look at your name, your stance here, some deductive reasoning, and yes ---> nostalgia is a very fitting word. His work rate, other guys get tired. Come on man, that's like zero substance. So yes, nostalgia.

Of course weight matters, Tyson Fury would destroy Roy Jones when Jones was jr middle or midddle. What does ancient history have to do with that? You're talking about times when boxing training didn't even really exist. And I'm pretty sure Tyson Fury would destroy Frazier and his lucky charms.

Jones was 200 on the dot and couldn't even hurt Ruiz, a 205 Frazier isn't any different.

Frazier was a arm puncher that lunged in, the guy had 32 wins in an era where fighters had tons of fights. I mean look at this mess --->

Holmes, Shavers, Norton, Weaver, Cobb, Witherspoon, Tyson, Golota, Mercer, Cooper, Morrison, Ruddock, Holyfield, Bowe, Lennox, Byrd, Pinklon, Bonecrusher, Toney, Moorer, Stewart, Dokes, Botha, Bruno, Tucker, all those guys whoop on little 205 pound Frazier. He wasn't that good.

How could frazier be an "arm" puncher? He only threw a left hook consistently from the outside. If he was an arm puncher he would be a miracle worker. He beat fighters with activity, proper head movement, one, if not the best heavyweight left hook ever. He beat you up to the body and had his left hand...and to you he did this with no power?

And La Motta is a so so comparison. Jake was, like Frazier a pressure fighter, but La Motta threw all punches, and was not the hard hitter that Frazier was. Holyfield was in some ways a good modern stand in for Frazier. He beat up bigger guys with hard and accurate shots but his main asset was his phenominal endurance.

If you think Morrison could beat Frazier you probably have not watched much of either fighter. Let me clue you in to something, Razor Ruddock and Tommy Morrison were solid, excellent and WELL rounded fighters... Both, when they had to step up became limited fighters who relied on a few punches and little else, because they could not compete at the top any other way, for whatever reason. Frazier developed and fought the way he did all the way up because of physical limitations and like Marciano made a very particular approach work for him, at the highest levels.

If you do not believe me there are lots of tapes showing Morrison "the Duke" coming up, and there is a great video of Ruddock sparring Larry Holmes (I posted before).

[Anthony342]

How could frazier be an "arm" puncher? He only threw a left hook consistently from the outside. If he was an arm puncher he would be a miracle worker. He beat fighters with activity, proper head movement, one, if not the best heavyweight left hook ever. He beat you up to the body and had his left hand...and to you he did this with no power?

And La Motta is a so so comparison. Jake was, like Frazier a pressure fighter, but La Motta threw all punches, and was not the hard hitter that Frazier was. Holyfield was in some ways a good modern stand in for Frazier. He beat up bigger guys with hard and accurate shots but his main asset was his phenominal endurance.

If you think Morrison could beat Frazier you probably have not watched much of either fighter. Let me clue you in to something, Razor Ruddock and Tommy Morrison were solid, excellent and WELL rounded fighters... Both, when they had to step up became limited fighters who relied on a few punches and little else, because they could not compete at the top any other way, for whatever reason. Frazier developed and fought the way he did all the way up because of physical limitations and like Marciano made a very particular approach work for him, at the highest levels.

If you do not believe me there are lots of tapes showing Morrison "the Duke" coming up, and there is a great video of Ruddock sparring Larry Holmes (I posted before).

The conceit of the young. Sounds like the same kind of kids who get upset if you disagree with them or prove them wrong on anything because they're not used to being told no and that the world doesn't revolve around them.

[War Room]

How could frazier be an "arm" puncher? He only threw a left hook consistently from the outside. If he was an arm puncher he would be a miracle worker. He beat fighters with activity, proper head movement, one, if not the best heavyweight left hook ever. He beat you up to the body and had his left hand...and to you he did this with no power?

And La Motta is a so so comparison. Jake was, like Frazier a pressure fighter, but La Motta threw all punches, and was not the hard hitter that Frazier was. Holyfield was in some ways a good modern stand in for Frazier. He beat up bigger guys with hard and accurate shots but his main asset was his phenominal endurance.

If you think Morrison could beat Frazier you probably have not watched much of either fighter. Let me clue you in to something, Razor Ruddock and Tommy Morrison were solid, excellent and WELL rounded fighters... Both, when they had to step up became limited fighters who relied on a few punches and little else, because they could not compete at the top any other way, for whatever reason. Frazier developed and fought the way he did all the way up because of physical limitations and like Marciano made a very particular approach work for him, at the highest levels.

If you do not believe me there are lots of tapes showing Morrison "the Duke" coming up, and there is a great video of Ruddock sparring Larry Holmes (I posted before).

Best heavyweight left hooker? His left hook was bollocks mate, you're out of your mind. Look at him in the video, arm punching. If you can't see it, YDKSAB and might as well hang 'em up.

One thing you don't lose is power and if Tommy could take Foremans power on his 2nd run, he could have taken it on the first. Frazier was hopping around like a leprechaun, I thought he was going to die in the ring.

I've seen all of each fighters fights. Even the Joe Hipp fight, Get 'Em Joe lol!

Marciano fought guys all on their way out, not a valid comparison. Frazier would put Macriano in a casket, levels kid.

The conceit of the young. Sounds like the same kind of kids who get upset if you disagree with them or prove them wrong on anything because they're not used to being told no and that the world doesn't revolve around them.

I've been watching boxing probably longer than you've been alive. I was just a kid, but started around 76'. Don't play with fire son, I'll burn your soul. You Marciano knob goblins are the easiest to break.

[QueensburyRules]

- -Wow, Kid Romper Room been chewing up his Lucky Charms...priceless!!!

[Anthony342]

How could frazier be an "arm" puncher? He only threw a left hook consistently from the outside. If he was an arm puncher he would be a miracle worker. He beat fighters with activity, proper head movement, one, if not the best heavyweight left hook ever. He beat you up to the body and had his left hand...and to you he did this with no power?

And La Motta is a so so comparison. Jake was, like Frazier a pressure fighter, but La Motta threw all punches, and was not the hard hitter that Frazier was. Holyfield was in some ways a good modern stand in for Frazier. He beat up bigger guys with hard and accurate shots but his main asset was his phenominal endurance.

If you think Morrison could beat Frazier you probably have not watched much of either fighter. Let me clue you in to something, Razor Ruddock and Tommy Morrison were solid, excellent and WELL rounded fighters... Both, when they had to step up became limited fighters who relied on a few punches and little else, because they could not compete at the top any other way, for whatever reason. Frazier developed and fought the way he did all the way up because of physical limitations and like Marciano made a very particular approach work for him, at the highest levels.

If you do not believe me there are lots of tapes showing Morrison "the Duke" coming up, and there is a great video of Ruddock sparring Larry Holmes (I posted before).

Another resident dumbass gets added to the "pay no mind" list. War Room.

[Marchegiano]

Why waste time with this poster? He did not even address the substance of you post... Just seems to want to take a quick dump in the history section.

look at that join-by date. This guy is a rebrand or lurker.

[Marchegiano]

Do you know what nemesis means?

A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by me.

Yea I do, semantics means: the meaning of a word or the study of meanings which you clearly have a loose grip on. You can't make up your own definitions and this clearly shows you'll never accept defeat. I've thoroughly defeated you with your own words and now you're looking for a way out. Kind of reminds me of Prograis vs Redkach.

From that entire post of devastating effect, you choose to focus on one single word which you don't know the meaning of and are now trying to twist the result in your favor with simple parlor tricks. Not going to happen. Try this: learn words, get better, make more sense. We'll pick this up when you get your levels up. Have a great weekend!

That's a misunderstanding of semantics.

Is cracked currently semantical?

Was cool semantics?

You sure you understand what you said to me and my response to you?

I didn't ask for a favor, billeu pointed out you've swerved the entire point I addressed to focus on the meaning of words on his own. Think on that a second, read it twice if you're slow. You chose to hold up debate over a subject to debate over words used to express a point in the subject regardless of your understanding of my meaning; semantics.

I'm not playing games with words or their meaning, you are.

Ironic you call a history lesson a parlor trick. I've furthered no point because you've given me nothing to further. I've addressed little because you've given me nothing to address. I haven't a clue who you think you can impress here with your bull**** but personally I reckon you're better suited for NSB.

Nemesis? More like antithesis, not much antagonism here though there is clear effort put in toward it. You've been whipped clean like excrement from a boot and it didn't take much effort. Nemesis he says Jittering monkeys climb trees to call themselves tall. Far as I am concerned, and anyone else here, you posted on opinion, I posted a counter-point, you went crying not knowing how to deal with rhetoric contradictory to your own.

Have you got any substance to you child?

[Marchegiano]

Best heavyweight left hooker? His left hook was bollocks mate, you're out of your mind. Look at him in the video, arm punching. If you can't see it, YDKSAB and might as well hang 'em up.

One thing you don't lose is power and if Tommy could take Foremans power on his 2nd run, he could have taken it on the first. Frazier was hopping around like a leprechaun, I thought he was going to die in the ring.

I've seen all of each fighters fights. Even the Joe Hipp fight, Get 'Em Joe lol!

Marciano fought guys all on their way out, not a valid comparison. Frazier would put Macriano in a casket, levels kid.



I've been watching boxing probably longer than you've been alive. I was just a kid, but started around 76'. Don't play with fire son, I'll burn your soul. You Marciano knob goblins are the easiest to break.

Marciano stopped a 55+ win streak, both fighters were 30, you don't seem to know much if any history.


Watched a documentary or some such and thought you could mix in here did you?