Gene Tunney: Would his style be effective in any era?

[Willie Pep 229]

I'm not so blown away by the dempsey-tunney-greb trio. Mostly I think in pretty much any other era they'd've had far more losses.

Billuea puts a respectful spin on it but facts are Tunney couldn't finish off a guy whose last loss was a KO loss that featured multiple KDs prior against a black man with no hope of being champion and not exactly a high KO% to his name. What happens if Tunney has to actually face winners instead?

It looks like a honkey cricle jerk promoted by honks for honks so honks can circlejerk in public and not feel ******. That said, if that's my interpretation of them in their time then I probably translate them to new eras quite a lot weaker than most because I am less impressed than most.


Yeah, Tunney wouldn't look like the relic he is against say Spinks, he'd just be another white boy who took a licking from Spinks is all.

Who is this fighter?

[The Old LefHook]

Eat glass. By no proof I mean no film of any Greb fight. In case you didn't know.

Since you have no proof you merely claim that reality is what you would prefer it to be. You don't like Tunney, so he must have run from Greb. Powerful reasoning.

[billeau2]

It seems there is yet another conspiracy theory out there: this one is regarding London's death.

An original and very unpopular rumor was that he off-ed himself over a woman. This has been debunked, although it came from a good source (a friend) it looks like he had some motive to spread the story, but no clue as to why.

Wonder if London would have been amused? It certainly is a more romantic way to go out, and one has to believe London was a romantic.

He just might have approved, or maybe even suggested the friend float the story for fun. LOL -- OK, maybe I'm the romantic.

But a later (conspiracy) theory emerged arguing that London chose to check out early instead of waiting out the suffering of his bad kidneys killing him.

The problem is that the doctors are adamant that London died naturally from "internal poisoning" - BUT then again they would be the responsible parties for explaining the several empty vials of morphine laying about the floor.

Kind of a Michael Jackson twist to it. Way too much meds in the hands of the patient and doctors claiming privilege.

Either way his kidneys took him out not a Hawaiian cutie.

Yeah I had heard that it was Suicide and keep in mind that In "Martin Eden" which was semi-autobiographical the main Protagonist commits suicide. But I would probably say, as Houdini noted, Okham's Razor applies here... He may have done too much Morphine knowing what would occur... But again, apparently it was a rumor and not a fact.

[billeau2]

- -Folks have been "off grid" for 99% of folks' history on this earth and are currently experiencing "off grid" routinely as western democracies lurch into abject failure.

Billy's failure to unhitch Salinger, Ginsbert, and Kerouac from this forum shows his limitations in accomplishing his goals as yet.

Its True... Ginsbert really had an effect on me! Almost as much as Ginsberg.

[QueensburyRules]

- -Re: Jack London.

Morphine a key ingredient in Laudanum as a popular cure all tonic in the day especially for the relief of pain. It has sadly been removed from the public pharmacopeia by the Draconian War on Drug ****s who have failed so miserably that school kids are procuring fentanyl laced drugs in schools with tragic results.

At any rate, kidney disease is very painful as kidneys are very sensitive as anyone with kidney stones knows. I personally don't know the results of any official investigation into his death, but those investigations highly limited in the day, and end of the day, an overdose of morphine just as fatal as uremic poisoning that even in this modern age defies reliable medical care.

In short, London was doomed no matter the investigative result such that it becomes the most trivial talking point that could be made.