Wrestler Fritz Von Erich kicked Rocky Marciano's butt

[billeau2]

Good answer. So there are some clearly defined lines you think should not be crossed.

If there were pro-bestiality and pro-pedophilia organizations accusing you of being intolerant how would you respond to them?

NAMBLA (I think I have the accronym correct) is actually an organization that tries to insert itself and push for any and all legislation that would allow men to groom younger children for sexual purposes. I mention this because these groups do try to make an issue of so called "in tolerance" when in fact it is with a specific agenda. Its actually more difficult with animals because we, as a society allow animals to be used as a means to an end... livestock. The argument being that an animal does not perceive our interests as competing interests to their autonomy.

I personally am 100% opposed to either of these actions. This imo is not something to be negotiated. As far as any intimation that a man should be allowed to have a sexually nuanced relationship with a boy, or a women with a girl... "because the ancient Greeks did it" (this is actually used to justify this!) I categorically reject it... The only thing that is problematic to me, and I am opposed to it as well, but a bit more circumspect, is when an adult female has a relationship with a young man... I mean part of me just screams out, assuming the women is hot, "what are you complaining about!!!?" Lol. I have to see past this though and alas, see it as just as abusive.

As far as animals? I have two male dogs that I love like my children and see them as companions with their own power in the relationship, but cannot ethically see right in subjecting them to an activity that they do not understand in the same way, as I do... I mean, I don't have the attraction, but all the things I enjoy with my boys, are mutual! This includes if they show affection, I kiss them the way I would kiss one of my sons, if they enjoy eating a piece of steak that I enjoy, walking, etc...

My argument for the dogs, and animals in general is that animals should be allowed a degree of personal autonomy. Animals show love, emotion, dominion... they deserve as much. It one reason I really am conflicted about eating meat, and the older I get the less meat I eat. Animals are not our servants, imo...

I feel like someone who needs an animal for sexual gratification is sick... So is a pedo, and while the pedo is more dangerous, either type of individual to me has serious issues

[REDEEMER]

Where do you draw the line, though? Are there any boundaries beyond which you say that someone is going too far?

Say a person identifies as a transgender who likes having sex with animals. Do you applaud them for being their authentic selves, or do you maybe think to yourself that they aren't healthy or well in the head?

Well this is interesting an uneducated guy who doesn’t know the difference from sexual deviant behavior involving beastiality who has to ask about line crossing and with a ****** chaser who’s crusading to be the spokesman of let people be what they are and got defensive when you brought manly subjects of men used to be men not poofters so he did an entire speech on it ? Ha

[The Old LefHook]

Who you calling a ****** chaser, by buggery?

[REDEEMER]

Who you calling a ****** chaser, by buggery?

The guy who said he used to go up to them and walk them home late at night because he was just being nice and they were sweet among other things he got the site to delete . Here’s a hint , I call him Silly Billy . Ha

[Willie Pep 229]

Where do you draw the line, though? Are there any boundaries beyond which you say that someone is going too far?

Say a person identifies as a transgender who likes having sex with animals. Do you applaud them for being their authentic selves, or do you maybe think to yourself that they aren't healthy or well in the head?

The line is simple . . No children, do it in private, and everyone involved is a willing participant. If it doesn't break one of those three rules it ain't your, ain't my, business.

[REDEEMER]

The line is simple . . No children, do it in private, and everyone involved is a willing participant. If it doesn't break one of those three rules it ain't your, ain't my, business.

I’ve disagreed with you before but it’s real scary guys like that have to ask where to draw the line , makes you think who are these people and how can they not know what is over the line .

[Marchegiano]

Where do you draw the line, though? Are there any boundaries beyond which you say that someone is going too far?

Say a person identifies as a transgender who likes having sex with animals. Do you applaud them for being their authentic selves, or do you maybe think to yourself that they aren't healthy or well in the head?

But you know some level of ancient history though.

I struggle with the idea that a rapist, murderer, pedo cannibal is not absolutely bat**** myself. One has to be crazy to want to ****, kill, and eat children. However, were ancient societies not human sacrificers? Did they not take child-aged lovers? Did they not consummate forced marriages? Sure, you can say, but Marche, that chances of one individual having a child lover, sex ******, and ritual sacrifice has to be the minority, but, how many are one of these things? Today any one of those things is a serious mental issue. Back then it was normal. Even if you didn't eat children you didn't think anything about men who did other than they are followers of Zeus.

Society has been founded around what we would call madness before and it was Jesus who ended that ****. Regardless of the actual christ baby or not. That period, the time frame, those gods being thought of, it was a massive shift and what is good and holy and what is evil and wrong.

Our own sport was caught in that shift and lost to it. Were they crazy? What about saint patrick and his snakes? It's well known ol paddy wasn't chasing snakes but rather human sacrificing religion. All those people, crazy, until good Patrick shows them the way?

The Aztecs were not even that long ago. Ripping out the hearts of men for their gods. Hot Chocolate is even originally reddened to give the appearance of blood. Crazy?


Therefor, I do not know nor do I believe it is knowable what act or belief defaults to mental illness, and, would not give that excuse for a man who breaks the contemporary code of society without being forced to accept it. Crazy is a pattern, perhaps.

[REDEEMER]

But you know some level of ancient history though.

I struggle with the idea that a rapist, murderer, pedo cannibal is not absolutely bat**** myself. One has to be crazy to want to ****, kill, and eat children. However, were ancient societies not human sacrificers? Did they not take child-aged lovers? Did they not consummate forced marriages? Sure, you can say, but Marche, that chances of one individual having a child lover, sex ******, and ritual sacrifice has to be the minority, but, how many are one of these things? Today any one of those things is a serious mental issue. Back then it was normal. Even if you didn't eat children you didn't think anything about men who did other than they are followers of Zeus.

Society has been founded around what we would call madness before and it was Jesus who ended that ****. Regardless of the actual christ baby or not. That period, the time frame, those gods being thought of, it was a massive shift and what is good and holy and what is evil and wrong.

Our own sport was caught in that shift and lost to it. Were they crazy? What about saint patrick and his snakes? It's well known ol paddy wasn't chasing snakes but rather human sacrificing religion. All those people, crazy, until good Patrick shows them the way?

The Aztecs were not even that long ago. Ripping out the hearts of men for their gods. Hot Chocolate is even originally reddened to give the appearance of blood. Crazy?


Therefor, I do not know nor do I believe it is knowable what act or belief defaults to mental illness, and, would not give that excuse for a man who breaks the contemporary code of society without being forced to accept it. Crazy is a pattern, perhaps.

This is why you are terrible in the current section and should limit your posts in the NSB , your statements have nothing to do with what is being compared, you are out of touch with reality it’s a reason you spend to much time here rehearsing speeches to post which aren’t even the subject . The poster just said how do we draw the line and your bringing up history of something that was the norm but isn’t now ?

[Marchegiano]

This is why you are terrible in the current section and should limit your posts in the NSB , your statements have nothing to do with what is being compared, you are out of touch with reality it’s a reason you spend to much time here rehearsing speeches to post which aren’t even the subject . The poster just said how do we draw the line and your bringing up history of something that was the norm but isn’t now ?

I've told you for years now it's not my fault if you're too ****** to understand, and, there's no point in informing me in the aggressive manner you do.

I promise Shoulder is plenty capable. Our interactions are frequent and intelligible. I would not have asked his opinion if they were not

[Spray_resistant]

I went and read page 1 about Rocky supposedly having a fight with one of the Von Ericks then skipped right to the last page where we're talking about pedos and Nambla.

Guess I missed alot in between