Chavez - Taylor stoppage

[-Huey-]

Your hate for King overshadows the facts.. I know, because i've said the same thing myself, but the more i watch the fight, the more i think Taylor was spent.. Chavez, like it or not is an atg, and most of the time, you just need just a little bit more than a big heart & incredible handspeed, in order to beat a fighter like that.. The last few seconds of that bout, were reminiscent of a public stoning, Taylor's head was on a loose neck and being pivoted about like a ping pong ball.. The words, subdural haematona come to mind. Suffered by many a fighter, with far more oxygen flow than Taylor had in his tank.. Good stoppage, end of story

Fuck Don King.

[Scott9945]

Did you see the fight in black and white or colour? I'm certain that would have influenced your perspective.

I saw the fight live and in color. Do you have any other ****** ****ing questions?

[T.Horton]

Your hate for King overshadows the facts.. I know, because i've said the same thing myself, but the more i watch the fight, the more i think Taylor was spent.. Chavez, like it or not is an atg, and most of the time, you just need just a little bit more than a big heart & incredible handspeed, in order to beat a fighter like that.. The last few seconds of that bout, were reminiscent of a public stoning, Taylor's head was on a loose neck and being pivoted about like a ping pong ball.. The words, subdural haematona come to mind. Suffered by many a fighter, with far more oxygen flow than Taylor had in his tank.. Good stoppage, end of story

You know what, you may be right.

I will check it out again.

[JAB5239]

I saw the fight live and in color. Do you have any other ****** ****ing questions?

No, he doesn't. He's finished.

[Humean]

Time irrelevant to decision of referee and he didn't answer back to Steele. It was clearly the correct decision. Steele was a fine referee and it amazes me that everyone who says it was the wrong decision can say that when Steele was the only man who was looking into Taylor's eyes and had the wealth of experience to know when to stop a fight. I suppose everyone else had a better position from their armchairs...

[Scott9945]

Time irrelevant to decision of referee and he didn't answer back to Steele. It was clearly the correct decision. Steele was a fine referee and it amazes me that everyone who says it was the wrong decision can say that when Steele was the only man who was looking into Taylor's eyes and had the wealth of experience to know when to stop a fight. I suppose everyone else had a better position from their armchairs...

Of course time is relevant when the fighter is taking an 8 count and there is no time remaining in the fight. No matter what you are speculating what the ref saw, Taylor was in no danger of being hit anymore. Steele was a terrible referee, and this was a terrible stoppage.

[Humean]

Time is irrelevant because it is not the referees job to make this kind of decision based upon how much time is left in the round/fight, not to mention that he may not have known exactly how much time was left on the clock anyway. You are criticizing the referee for something that was not within the referees remit. His job was to decide whether Taylor was fit to continue and he was clearly right on that because Taylor not only didn't answer him but looked away. It even took Taylor a bit before he realised that the fight had been called off, an indication of his inability to continue.

[Scott9945]

Time is irrelevant because it is not the referees job to make this kind of decision based upon how much time is left in the round/fight, not to mention that he may not have known exactly how much time was left on the clock anyway. You are criticizing the referee for something that was not within the referees remit. His job was to decide whether Taylor was fit to continue and he was clearly right on that because Taylor not only didn't answer him but looked away. It even took Taylor a bit before he realised that the fight had been called off, an indication of his inability to continue.

I've seen plenty of fighters allowed to continue mid fight in much poorer shape. Like when Steele allowed Tommy Hearns to continue against Barkley. Steele was an ex-fighter and an experienced ref. He knew the 10 second lights were on. Referees are supposed to consider every aspect of a fight. The real reason he stopped it was to protect the house fighter. Just like he gave Tyson a quick win over Ruddock and allowed Hearns (the obvious house fighter) a chance to continue. And if Steele were really going by the book, he would have interrupted the count until Chavez was in a neutral corner, which he was clearly wasn't.

[Scott9945]

No, he doesn't. He's finished.

I sure hope that you didn't say anything cheeky again.

[Humean]

I've seen plenty of fighters allowed to continue mid fight in much poorer shape. Like when Steele allowed Tommy Hearns to continue against Barkley. Steele was an ex-fighter and an experienced ref. He knew the 10 second lights were on. Referees are supposed to consider every aspect of a fight. The real reason he stopped it was to protect the house fighter. Just like he gave Tyson a quick win over Ruddock and allowed Hearns (the obvious house fighter) a chance to continue. And if Steele were really going by the book, he would have interrupted the count until Chavez was in a neutral corner, which he was clearly wasn't.

Now Steele is criticized for not having eyes in the back of his head? If your argument is based around conspiracy theories then I think i'll leave you to your beliefs. Nothing will convince you otherwise.