If Jerry Quarry was fighting in his prime today...

[Mersey]

Why is this a 1 star thread? Is is a ****** suggestion?

[Obama]

This whole post was filled with nuthuggery and nothing to do with relevant boxing but I decided to highlight the most hilarious parts.

Quarry was then beaten by top contender Eddie Machen the same Machen who had given Sonny Liston and Joe Frazier a run for their money

The SAME Machen who fought Sonny Liston? ROFL. Eddie Machen had one foot in the grave when he schooled Quarry. Liston beat Machen in his prime. And Machen didn't give Joe Frazier any kind of run. The fight wasn't remotely close.

Quarry beat Floyd Patterson it was no `GIFT` decision like you try to make out, i have the fight and have viewed it 10s of times, Quarry won decking Patterson twice and beating him repeatedly to the punch

1) Multiple KDs in the same round didn't give extra points back then. It helped you win the round, but it was just a win or lose scenario, no 2-3 point difference.

2) Beat him repeatedly to the punch? Patterson landed the vast majority of meaningful blows. For a guy with KO power like Quarry, he really should be ashamed to not have been able to stop a glass jawed post-prime Patterson.

Quarry handed undefeated Ron Lyle his 1st pro defeat, Lyle was billed as the `Next Sonny Liston'

Why do we care what Ron Lyle was billed as? Was he actually the next Sonny Liston? No....he was not. He couldn't hold Sonny's jockstrap.

he fought a Ring Mag Fight of the year with Joe Frazier

Way to overlook the fact that Frazier beat his ass practically every single round.

as for Quarry losing to Ken Norton well Quarry was at the tail-end of his career when he took the Norton fight and was not the same fighter he was a decade earlier, But after Quarry hammered Shavers he KOd Joe Alexander in a `Classic` at Madison square Gadren, Alexander had just KOd Garcia who had knocked out Ken Norton...

This one is just too priceless. The ultimate proof of your nuthuggery.

Jerry Quarry was voted the most popular fighter in the world in 1967, 68 69, he was an actionpacked-value-for-money fighter, who could beat the best fighters in the division

No, he couldn't beat the best. He just beat the guys 1 level below. We already went over this. He fought the best, and he got stopped every time. His popularity has nothing to do with how good he was as a fighter.

it is quite obvious that you have never ever seen any of Jerry Quarry`s fights

I've seen every Jerry Quarry fight that exists on youtube, which is actually a pretty decent amount. It includes his robbery of Patterson, twice.

[sonnyboyx2]

This whole post was filled with nuthuggery and nothing to do with relevant boxing but I decided to highlight the most hilarious parts.



The SAME Machen who fought Sonny Liston? ROFL. Eddie Machen had one foot in the grave when he schooled Quarry. Liston beat Machen in his prime. And Machen didn't give Joe Frazier any kind of run. The fight wasn't remotely close.



1) Multiple KDs in the same round didn't give extra points back then. It helped you win the round, but it was just a win or lose scenario, no 2-3 point difference.

2) Beat him repeatedly to the punch? Patterson landed the vast majority of meaningful blows. For a guy with KO power like Quarry, he really should be ashamed to not have been able to stop a glass jawed post-prime Patterson.



Why do we care what Ron Lyle was billed as? Was he actually the next Sonny Liston? No....he was not. He couldn't hold Sonny's jockstrap.



Way to overlook the fact that Frazier beat his ass practically every single round.



This one is just too priceless. The ultimate proof of your nuthuggery.



No, he couldn't beat the best. He just beat the guys 1 level below. We already went over this. He fought the best, and he got stopped every time. His popularity has nothing to do with how good he was as a fighter.



I've seen every Jerry Quarry fight that exists on youtube, which is actually a pretty decent amount. It includes his robbery of Patterson, twice.

your funny... i will stick with my analysis. as for the Youtube fights.. well then you have watched virtually nothing of Jerry Quarry

[Obama]

your funny... i will stick with my analysis. as for the Youtube fights.. well then you have watched virtually nothing of Jerry Quarry

Nothing, really?

It has both fights with Patterson, both fights with Frazier, both fights with Ali (which I actually have on my computer as well), Lyle, Eddie Machen, George Chuvalo, Mac Foster, Thad Spencer, Norton, even Jack frickin Bodell.

If I'm not mistaken these are the vast majority of his marquee fights.

[sonnyboyx2]

Quarry NEVER fought a giant heavyweight and Shavers jaw was never anything to write home about. Jerry was an excellent fighter. But if Chuvalo could stop him, a Wlad or Vitaly is going to punish him and take his head off.

Since when did being over 6'4" become a disadvantage?

so Mac Foster at 6ft 6ins was not a supersized heavyweight?

Muhammad Ali himself said `fighters over 6ft 4ins are too tall and at a disadvantage... name me one fighter over that height who it was to his advantage

[sonnyboyx2]

Nothing, really?

It has both fights with Patterson, both fights with Frazier, both fights with Ali (which I actually have on my computer as well), Lyle, Eddie Machen, George Chuvalo, Mac Foster, Thad Spencer, Norton, even Jack frickin Bodell.

If I'm not mistaken these are the vast majority of his marquee fights.

*****, in a previous post of yours you stated that "Cox Corner" was excellent and knew his stuff from doing his research, well i suggest you go back and read Cox Corner on what he say`s about Jerry Quarry ... if i am correct he claims Quarry was one of the best fighters he ever seen.

[sonnyboyx2]

This whole post was filled with nuthuggery and nothing to do with relevant boxing but I decided to highlight the most hilarious parts.



The SAME Machen who fought Sonny Liston? ROFL. Eddie Machen had one foot in the grave when he schooled Quarry. Liston beat Machen in his prime. And Machen didn't give Joe Frazier any kind of run. The fight wasn't remotely close.



1) Multiple KDs in the same round didn't give extra points back then. It helped you win the round, but it was just a win or lose scenario, no 2-3 point difference.

2) Beat him repeatedly to the punch? Patterson landed the vast majority of meaningful blows. For a guy with KO power like Quarry, he really should be ashamed to not have been able to stop a glass jawed post-prime Patterson.



Why do we care what Ron Lyle was billed as? Was he actually the next Sonny Liston? No....he was not. He couldn't hold Sonny's jockstrap.



Way to overlook the fact that Frazier beat his ass practically every single round.



This one is just too priceless. The ultimate proof of your nuthuggery.



No, he couldn't beat the best. He just beat the guys 1 level below. We already went over this. He fought the best, and he got stopped every time. His popularity has nothing to do with how good he was as a fighter.



I've seen every Jerry Quarry fight that exists on youtube, which is actually a pretty decent amount. It includes his robbery of Patterson, twice.

your analysis does not read anything like the way these fights really went... maybe you are a like bitter towards Quarry and not telling it like it really was.. here is a link

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/casey/MC_Quarry.htm

[JAB5239]

so Mac Foster at 6ft 6ins was not a supersized heavyweight?

Well its kinda funny, but I see Fosters height as 6'2" and his weight 196lbs for the Quarry fight. That is hardly "supersized", and you said he fought plenty of them.

Muhammad Ali himself said `fighters over 6ft 4ins are too tall and at a disadvantage... name me one fighter over that height who it was to his advantage

Bowe, Lewis, W. Klit, V. Klit, Valuev, Carnera, Willard. If a fighter knows how to use his height it can be very advantageous.

[RightCross94]

Jerry could punch alright just ask Earnie Shavers about that.. Quarry would be heavyweight champion of the world if fighting today, his counter-punching, speed, ring-savvy and granite chin would be too much for the guys who are title claiments today, i dont go along with this `myth` that fighter A would be too tall for fighter B or fighter A is too heavy for fighter B Jerry Quarry fought his fair share of giant heavyweights and beat them all, its boxing ability that counts in this sport not size and weight.. Manny Pacquiao would not be campaigning 9 weight division above his weight if it was not his ability that got him there, Roy Jones, James Toney, Thomas Hearns, Mike Spinks its boxing ability that counts not height and weight..once a fighter is over the height of 6ft4ins his height becomes a disadvantage, weight has always been a disadvantage

what?? a good boxer who can use his height is often very difficult to deal with. Weight is an advantage unless it is excess fat, if both fighters are in good shape, then the heavier one is at a big advantage. It takes skilled fighters like Toney, Mayweather, Duran, Calderon etc to negate a weight advantage.

[RightCross94]

your analysis does not read anything like the way these fights really went... maybe you are a like bitter towards Quarry and not telling it like it really was.. here is a link

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxin.../MC_Quarry.htm

and maybe your ****ing obsessed with him......