Sonny Liston vs Joe Louis

[them_apples]

still looks like novices compared to mid-carders in the 70s-'90s in all areas I said,even if this was shot in 60fps

no fps no matter what number it was shot in can't magically add or downgrade angles/tech/fluidity/defense/
timing, exposed very badly you like exposing you're crazy and very slow don't you?

Its actually can, as without enough frames the movement won’t be described properly. You will know when they punch and when they landed, but you won’t get an accurate representation of their movements. Esp a guy like Louis who operates in inches

[Ascended]

It actually can, as without enough frames the movement wonât be described properly. You will know when they punched and when they landed, but you wonât get an accurate representation of their movements. Esp a guy like Louis who operates in inches

Wrong cause you crazy cult members always brag on Louis which means you for a fact can see his movements it's not as if the videos have static which you can't make out what you see/or stopping/parts are cut out this goes for every fighter from the 20s-50s on video that you cult members brag/hyped up for years, you're full of crap and just exposed you're also a liar on top of crazy or maybe have bad vision or maybe you're everything I call you

As I said can't said change angles/tech/fluidity/defense/
timing,you've seen enough of his matches and others in that era to see every one of those guys' movements in each era and they look trash compared to the 70s-'90s

And if you were right all the times you bragged about louis on this site are incorrect and unjustified since it wouldn't be footage you would be able to make out going by you're logic unless you wanna retract that odd comment

So either the footage isn't able to be seen well by you and everyone else on the whole web in history who ever has bragged on llouis everybody else from 20-50s it's only you who has trouble making out every louis match that exists on the web which one is it you said what you said so now you're stuck in quicksand

[billeau2]

They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing. And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent

these obsolete flaws and tech exist in Jersey even who was the most skilled in the HW class it shows in this match too, that Jersey/louis isn't close to as advanced as that no name liston fought or himself in the areas I named and that no name didn't have the same obsolete tech and flaws as this novice like the era

Do these flaws and tech exist in the bes match with either fighter? or can you not see good cult members so you can't see these obsolete tech/flaws

Are you aware of how incredibly ****** you sound trying sound like you can technically deconstruct boxing? First of all: Yes they leave themselves open, to draw an attack, as well as to feint. What the hell do you mean about counters and lateral movement? Your comments are all so obviously nonsense, you did not even bother to try to sound informed!

Sure sure sure... Samurai warriors would do spin kicks off of horses right? and boxers used to leave themselves to get hit... people did not understand that swords are sharp, and that punches hurt right?

You are an imbecile!

[billeau2]

" I think I'm a banana tree!" lol

"back then they would move to get hit a lot and just use one leg to move because, just because" --Ascended, via mom's basement.

[billeau2]

Liston was incredibly underrated. His punching had ATG accuracy and power, his jab made his reach deadly, his seldom threw "a punch" rather threw combinations off the jab...his foot speed was such that he did not need to cut the ring down to catch, pressure and finish his guy. He was perhaps the best finisher in the division ever. At his best I rank him top five, maybe numero uno (depending on how I feel that day ahem.

Louis problem would be Liston, knowing Louis was a slow starter, would jump on him early. Louis never from my recollection, great as he was, fought a big guy who knew how to use reach. Liston would be a real puzzle and a bad match up stylistically. Despite Louis not having slow feet as people say, his foot speed would have to stop the speed off the primary fighting line that Liston and his jab utilized to set up the finish. Louis could slip the jab and still not be in position to counter Liston (because of Liston's reach).

IF Louis trained with more angular movements to fight Sonny, he might be able to catch Sonny off the slip... but I doubt it and Liston had a great chin.

[JAB5239]

Are you aware of how incredibly ****** you sound trying sound like you can technically deconstruct boxing? First of all: Yes they leave themselves open, to draw an attack, as well as to feint. What the hell do you mean about counters and lateral movement? Your comments are all so obviously nonsense, you did not even bother to try to sound informed!

Sure sure sure... Samurai warriors would do spin kicks off of horses right? and boxers used to leave themselves to get hit... people did not understand that swords are sharp, and that punches hurt right?

You are an imbecile!

But their lateral movement is very basic!!! Lmao!! I would love to hear how to move lateral in a more technical sense.

[billeau2]

But their lateral movement is very basic!!! Lmao!! I would love to hear how to move lateral in a more technical sense.

Money Man exists solely for the purpose of making Queen B look like Stephen Hawkins.

[JAB5239]

Money Man exists solely for the purpose of making Queen B look like Stephen Hawkins.