Joe Louis vs Ali, prime for prime

[hookoutofhell]

joe never did too well against elusive and slick fighters and at HW ali was about elusive and slick as they got.

he'd dance his way to a UD

[JAB5239]

billy conn out boxed louis, ali could, but ali would be bigger and have a better chin then conn

ali wins

Ali could very well beat Louis. But lets put some things to rest here. First...Conn was SLIGHTLY ahead of Louis on 2 cards and even on the other. That may be winning, but its hardly the massacre people like to use as an example. Second...Conn lost that night as well as in the rematch. Third...Ali had many flaws that Joe could capitalize on himself. Whoever wins, this fight would not be a walkover. And last...Ali was troubled by Jones, lost to Frazier, and many believe lost all 3 to Norton. None of those guys were as good as Louis. Peace.

[mickey malone]

Ali could very well beat Louis. But lets put some things to rest here. First...Conn was SLIGHTLY ahead of Louis on 2 cards and even on the other. That may be winning, but its hardly the massacre people like to use as an example. Second...Conn lost that night as well as in the rematch. Third...Ali had many flaws that Joe could capitalize on himself. Whoever wins, this fight would not be a walkover. And last...Ali was troubled by Jones, lost to Frazier, and many believe lost all 3 to Norton. None of those guys were as good as Louis. Peace.

MASSIVE! Very well put 'old boy' 100% RIGHT...

[fight_professor]

Many believe isnt a recorded outcome. He won 2/3 against Norton. Ok they were close, but to quote an earlier post "he won that night".

[Squabbles94806]

Well considering they were from two different era, their styles are completely different. ALI was loose and elusive using the jab, whereas Louis would stalk his prey, use a jab for range and unload that big right.

I think i'd have to give it to ALI on points, if he doesn't get knocked down. If ALI got knocked down, then there's a great chance Louis would win on points.

Joe Louis would have to catch big shots and knock ALI down at least twice to get a UD. Other than that, ALI would win with his jab.

Louis and Liston would be a good match up.

[Slimey Limey]

Ali could very well beat Louis. But lets put some things to rest here. First...Conn was SLIGHTLY ahead of Louis on 2 cards and even on the other. That may be winning, but its hardly the massacre people like to use as an example. Second...Conn lost that night as well as in the rematch. Third...Ali had many flaws that Joe could capitalize on himself. Whoever wins, this fight would not be a walkover. And last...Ali was troubled by Jones, lost to Frazier, and many believe lost all 3 to Norton. None of those guys were as good as Louis. Peace.

Conn DOMINATED Louis, because the fact that he was ahead against a champion of Louis' hype, in a time where you needed to destroy the champion to win, it speaks volumes.
Conn onyly lost because he was so much smaller and made a mistake.

Third, Ali had no flaws that Louis could capitalize on, he aint no Frazier or Norton.
JONES? Oh you're NOT desperate at all bringing up a fight when Ali was just a kid.
Only ******ed haters think he lost 3 fights against Norton. He won 2 for sure, and if you think Norton was robbed you must admit Walcott was robbed against Bumbeater as well.

And reword that. Both Frazier and Norton were BETTER than Louis. Period.

[mickey malone]

Conn DOMINATED Louis, because the fact that he was ahead against a champion of Louis' hype, in a time where you needed to destroy the champion to win, it speaks volumes.
Conn onyly lost because he was so much smaller and made a mistake.

Third, Ali had no flaws that Louis could capitalize on, he aint no Frazier or Norton.
JONES? Oh you're NOT desperate at all bringing up a fight when Ali was just a kid.
Only ******ed haters think he lost 3 fights against Norton. He won 2 for sure, and if you think Norton was robbed you must admit Walcott was robbed against Bumbeater as well.

And reword that. Both Frazier and Norton were BETTER than Louis. Period.

Oh really.. There's an argument for Frazier, Ali and even Marciano, but are you now REALLY saying that Norton beats Louis aswell??

[Ascended]

Everybody who said joe is crazy its obvious he would lose fast