(Poll) SRR the greatest of all time? According to Ali - Yes!

[Southpaw16BF]

Slimey Limey, you have been made a complete fool of around here, no one agrees with you, and everyone just laughs at you. The things you say are complete bogus, and your biased views for Ali, is shocking and so is your hate for Robinson.

If you want to carry on to make a complete fool of yourself carry on, as I will be glad to make you look ****** one more time. It's just to easy, as your lack of knowlodge is so funny.

[The Iron Man]

Btw, Louis is not even top 5 ATG HW.

Are you serious!! Could i see your top 10 heavyweight list?

[Obama]

It's not Blasphemy imo. Not saying they would win 10/10 times, but Walcott getting tagged by big punchers like them is not out of the question.

How is Baer better then Walcott? Walcott had boat loads of more skill then Baer.

Baer beat a prime Carnera and Schmeling. His two best wins trump Walcott's, and his over all career record is superior. You know how they said Sonny Liston would be Heavyweight Champion for a decade when he won the title? They said the same about Baer. Funny thing was, they both lost to the next guy they faced.

[Slimey Limey]

Actually I gave you reasoned answers and quoted source material which you disregarded. I only resorted insults when it became patendly obvious that you were a 24 karot ignoramous for whom reason was wasted on.



Now THAT is obvious bias. Clearly you're just a fan-boi who nuthugs a few fighters but is not a fan of the sport.

Poet

Actually you immediately resorted to your 8th grade level insults as soon as I disagreed with you completely. That's what you always do, and you probably always will since you haven't showed any signs of getting over your midlife crisis.

And no it's not bias. Joe Louis has a very padded record with his best wins being against average fighters and a couple of good fighters who actually beat him before or were on their way to beat him. He's not top 5 since Ali, Lewis, Marciano, Tyson, Holyfield and even Foreman have better wins.

Most of you know this, but you have this Joe Louis love imprinted in you. I have yet to see a Louis nuthugger admit a single flaw about the man.

BTW, if you're so hot to trot for Ali maybe you should take the discussion with someone like LRR who actually hates Ali and denies his greatness. I get the feeling, though, this is more than just about Ali......the person who's legacy you're REALLY trying to protect is Marciano. Get over it: Marciano wouldn't have survived past 7 rounds against a prime Louis.

Poet

Haha, Louis was knocked down and/or hurt by some of the most ****ty fighters I've seen such as Galento and you act as if Marciano wouldn't last against him. Plus he easily decapitated past prime Louis. I know that is a horrendous image for you. Prime Marciano destroys Louis in 10. But don't try to go off topic now Poet. This thread is about SRR not being the greatest.

Are you serious!! Could i see your top 10 heavyweight list?

I don't know if I should bother showing a man that only cares about size.

[Slimey Limey]

Baer beat a prime Carnera and Schmeling. His two best wins trump Walcott's, and his over all career record is superior. You know how they said Sonny Liston would be Heavyweight Champion for a decade when he won the title? They said the same about Baer. Funny thing was, they both lost to the next guy they faced.

As if beating Carnera, one of the worst champions of all time, is something to write home about. Walcott was shoulders above Baer in every way. The man gave 2 top 10 ATG Heavyweights a good run for their money. But Baer was pissing himself in his dressing room because he was so affraid to get into the ring with one.

[The Iron Man]

I don't know if I should bother showing a man that only cares about size.

I explained to you exactly why i thought Marciano would not be the most effective fighter over all the eras. I dont think you even responded. Im expecting Marciano to be at number one?

[GJC]

Woah, you are talking to an Ali fan here who if you care to check previous posts has made some spirited defences of his resume.
What I am saying is that by including Wepner, Bugner etc you are weakening your case not strengthening it. Frazier, Foreman, Liston etc are great wins and do not need padding.
Ali is the best HW of all time SRR is the best p4p of all time IMO. Trying to convince me that beating Henry Cooper twice is a career defining win will not alter my view.

[them_apples]

As if beating Carnera, one of the worst champions of all time, is something to write home about. Walcott was shoulders above Baer in every way. The man gave 2 top 10 ATG Heavyweights a good run for their money. But Baer was pissing himself in his dressing room because he was so affraid to get into the ring with one.

I'm gonna have to be the devils advocate and agree with you here, even though you seem to be getting the brunt of everyones insults.

Carnera was a joke, and Wallcott, as I said before was a far superior fighter to Max Baer.

[GJC]

Oh and SRR has like 4 times the amount of fights Ali had as well as 4 times the amount of LOSSES Ali had.

Four times the fights so 4 times the losses, and your point is?
15 of the 19 SRR losses occured in his 36th year.
Also if you draw the line under SRR's record at Ali's 61 fights you have one defeat so you could say Ali lost 5 times as many as SRR if you wish to slice and dice logic.
I'm a huge Ali fan as I am a SRR fan and a number of other fighters including Louis, Dempsey and Marciano. I believe there is enough room for all of them without the need to denegrate one fighter to bolster another fighters record.
Ali's career speaks for itself and is little served by you speaking for him.

[StarshipTrooper]

Actually you immediately resorted to your 8th grade level insults as soon as I disagreed with you completely. That's what you always do, and you probably always will since you haven't showed any signs of getting over your midlife crisis.

I'll be waiting for you to elaborate on Louis' opposition, unless of cource if the only thing you can say is "others are like mickey mouse club(what the fook is that mate?) compared to Joe". Bum of the month club mate, unless you can explain me otherwise.

The so-called "Bum Of The Month Club" officially refers those fighters Louis fought between December of 1940 and March of 1941. They are:

1940-12-16 Al McCoy
1941-01-31 Red Burman
1941-02-17 Gus Dorazio
1941-03-21 Abe Simon
1941-04-08 Tony Musto
1941-05-23 Buddy Baer
1941-06-18 Billy Conn

Al McCoy - 115 career wins including wins over Tommy Loughran and Nathan Mann.

Red Burman - 76 career wins including a win over Tommy Farr.

Gus Dorazio - 73 career wins including a win over Bob Pastor.

Abe Simon - Outweighed Louis by 50 pounds and had a win over Jersey Joe Walcott.

Tony Musto - The only true bum of the bunch.

Buddy Baer - Outweighed Louis by 35 pounds, 52 career wins including wins over Lee Savold, Nathan Mann, and Tony Galento.

Billy Conn - Light-Heavyweight Champion, 64 career wins including wins over Fritzie Zivic, Vince Dundee, Teddy Yarosz, Fred Apostoli, Gus Lesnevich, Melio Bettina, Bob Pastor, Lee Savold, and Tony Zale.

Poet

Somebody just got owned! Nice work Poet.

.Anyone reading the "Greatest Title Reign" thread will see who started the trolling. The above quote is from that thread where I give chapter and verse and you blow it off in favor of chanting you're "bum" mantra.

And no it's not bias. Joe Louis has a very padded record with his best wins being against average fighters and a couple of good fighters who actually beat him before or were on their way to beat him. He's not top 5 since Ali, Lewis, Marciano, Tyson, Holyfield and even Foreman have better wins.

Oh? You mean like Marciano's biggest wins coming against Walcott, Charles, Louis, and Moore: Fighters all past it?

[QUOTE=Slimey Limey;5341466]Most of you know this, but you have this Joe Louis love imprinted in you. I have yet to see a Louis nuthugger admit a single flaw about the man.[/COLOR]

Most of you know Marciano was a slow, clusmsy, low-skilled fighter who ate punches and bled like Henry Cooper, but you have this Rocky love imprinted in you. I have yet to see a Marciano nuthugger admit a single flaw about the man.

Haha, Louis was knocked down and/or hurt by some of the most ****ty fighters I've seen such as Galento and you act as if Marciano wouldn't last against him.

Oh, you mean the way Marciano was dropped by Moore: A LIGHT-Heavyweight.

Plus he easily decapitated past prime Louis.

Hmmm. The fight was even on the cards at the time of the stoppage I believe. Please explain how that is "easy". Of course that also means a PRIME Marciano was made to look foolish by an old man.

Prime Marciano destroys Louis in 10.

Only when you're wanking off.

But don't try to go off topic now Poet. This thread is about SRR not being the greatest.

I do believe it was YOU who brought Ali and Louis into this thread. You might want to try reading back, provided you can overcome your chronic myopia.

PS. I see you now have Iron Man on your ass now too. You're track record speaks for itself: You've managed to get yourself slapped around by practically every good poster on this board. You, Sir, are the definition of an "internet troll"; ultimately,though,everyone you take on makes you their "internet *****". Now go play in traffice before you embarress your countrymen even more.

Poet