What fighter do you think gets to much credit and gets overrated in legacy terms?

[res]

Co sign.. he lost almost all of his big fights.. He did fight everybody though.. But in my book you gotta beat'em to get the full credit..

He has been a staple of Boxing, but yeah his best wins were an over the Hill Whitaker and Chavez.

[Abstraction]

Calzaghe. Took him a decade to unify an awful division.

Decided to face Hopkins and RJJ when they were at the combined age of 83, even then, could only manage stealing an SD from 43 year old Hopkins. lol!

Good boxer, Farce of a resume and a complete waste

[hunkysoupbone]

John l. Sullivan, Bob Fitzsimons, Jack johnson.

Sam Langford has 46(!) losses, yet he's often rated in people's top 10 ever. This despite also being only 5'6" inches tall and weighing in the 180's. Go figure....

[UnDeniable]

Aaron Pryor

[them_apples]

Furthermore given the fact that he failed to successfully take on any of the the greatest heavyweights of his era, if he didn't "unify the title" there would really be nothing to talk about, he would have just been the equivalent of another top contender.

let's just agree to disagree

[StarshipTrooper]

John l. Sullivan, Bob Fitzsimons, Jack johnson.

Sam Langford has 46(!) losses, yet he's often rated in people's top 10 ever. This despite also being only 5'6" inches tall and weighing in the 180's. Go figure....

Langford had 301 fights and won 203 of them. Please let me know when Mayweather fights his 300 fight.

Poet

[Knighte]

Tyson is overrated by many but underrated by just as many. It's almost sickening to see boxing historians leave Mike out and put Jack Johnson or even Dempsey on their lists (sry Benny Leonard). .

Why is it sickening to include Johnson and Dempsey but not Tyson? Both were terrors of their division for far longer. Johnson was a fighter ahead of his time who absolutely toyed with most of his opponents while Dempsey was an unrelenting savage who was knocked out maybe once(?) in his long career

Rocky Marciano and Vitali Klistchko (see him vs Byrd and washed up Lennox)

While I'm kind of on the fence about Vitali, you just knew I would take issue with the Rocky Marciano inclusion. The man utterly sponged the heavyweight division dry (destroying several HOFers in the process), was perhaps the strongest pound-for-pound puncher in the game, never lost or even drew, and had a KO percentage we are not likely to ever see again in our lifetimes.. If anything, he is not rated highly enough!

[chucklesmofo]

Deffinatlely Bernard Hopkins!

[TheGreatA]

John l. Sullivan, Bob Fitzsimons, Jack johnson.

Sam Langford has 46(!) losses, yet he's often rated in people's top 10 ever. This despite also being only 5'6" inches tall and weighing in the 180's. Go figure....

It's because he fought champions and contenders from lightweight to heavyweight and had good results against all of them. Unfortunately he was never given a title shot.

Langford defines the word "pound for pound".

[Benny Leonard]

Why is it sickening to include Johnson and Dempsey but not Tyson? Both were terrors of their division for far longer. Johnson was a fighter ahead of his time who absolutely toyed with most of his opponents while Dempsey was an unrelenting savage who was knocked out maybe once(?) in his long career



While I'm kind of on the fence about Vitali, you just knew I would take issue with the Rocky Marciano inclusion. The man utterly sponged the heavyweight division dry (destroying several HOFers in the process), was perhaps the strongest pound-for-pound puncher in the game, never lost or even drew, and had a KO percentage we are not likely to ever see again in our lifetimes.. If anything, he is not rated highly enough!

Johnson was "far" longer, but not Dempsey. Dempsey had 6 successful title defenses in about 4 years before losing to Tunney three years after his fight with Firpo. Three of the years he held the title, he was inactive so we can't count them. I do wonder had Dempsey not been inactive for 3 years, would he have beaten Tunney. Three years is a long time for a Pro fighter to be inactive, especially a Rich Pro Fighter that is Champion. Tunney was good though, no question.

Tyson, had 9 successful title defenses and held the title for 3+ years all by the time he was 23 {?}. Impressive he was so young when he did all that but equally impressive he was able to tear down his career faster than Superman could change his clothes back to Clark Kent.