Some sensible answers, and Mayweather, Tyson and Calzaghe are banned from this thread. As thats all everyone ever says, just for the sake of it!
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What fighter do you think gets to much credit and gets overrated in legacy terms?
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I love the guy, but Aaron Pryor gets severely overrated. Don't get me wrong he was great but look at his fight record...Cervantes was on the downside..Arguello was at the tail end of his illustrious career. Aside from those two his opponents are nothing to write home about.
Liek I said, he is one of the greats in his division..but the overrating kicks in when people claim he would destroy Leonard and asinine assumptions such as that. Claiming he would completely dismantly all time greats. I mean, there is nothing on his resume to suggest that. It's one thing to destroy over the hill, once great fighters and journeymen...it's another to do it to the best of the best.
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oscar de la hoya has had a good career... he is HOF worthy... but he was way overrated IMO... those who beat him, every single fighter who beat him has done better in terms of legacy...
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Originally posted by talip bin osman View Postoscar de la hoya has had a good career... he is HOF worthy... but he was way overrated IMO... those who beat him, every single fighter who beat him has done better in terms of legacy...
Co-sign. DLH did a lot in and for boxing, and I give him mass cred for takin all comers. But he lost some that woulda really raised his legacy to a higher level. There were bad decisions that went both ways in his fights tho. I do think he gets overrated by a lotta cats tho.
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Originally posted by Hawkins View PostI love the guy, but Aaron Pryor gets severely overrated. Don't get me wrong he was great but look at his fight record...Cervantes was on the downside..Arguello was at the tail end of his illustrious career. Aside from those two his opponents are nothing to write home about.
Liek I said, he is one of the greats in his division..but the overrating kicks in when people claim he would destroy Leonard and asinine assumptions such as that. Claiming he would completely dismantly all time greats. I mean, there is nothing on his resume to suggest that. It's one thing to destroy over the hill, once great fighters and journeymen...it's another to do it to the best of the best.
And the "Leonard feared Pryor" has become a pet peeve of mine (as have numerous Legendary Night Myths).
Pryor's one of those fighters who I think of highly in terms of H2H, but not especially high historically in achievements. His drug abuse and management problems played a bigger part in him not achieving what he should have rather than how the big-name welterweights allegedly fearing him.
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Rocky Marciano and Vitali Klistchko (see him vs Byrd and washed up Lennox)
Ali, although great, does get overrated by many - he often get's the unbeatable status even when he did lose. Not a knock or anything.
I guess saying that, every fighter has a degree of overrated - ness.
Robinson heralded as the all time p4p champion due to his longevity rather than quality of opposition (which was good, but I've seen better). some example
Tyson get's overrated as well by some, he carries the same sort of "unbeatable" aura that people give Ali. Even in direct style match ups, such as Foreman.
Calzaghe has to be one of the most overrated current gen boxers. Having beat up second rate opponents for most of his career, fighting a Jones that has been owned by Tarver and Johnson, and getting the only good win of his career..a gift decision over Hopkins.
I can't really see how De La Hoya get's overrated, I don't know a single boxing fan that thinks he'd beat on the really great fighters such as Leonard, Duran..Hearns etc. In his prime he was actually decent to, it's only these recent losses and his richy attitude that have made his legacy fall.Last edited by them_apples; 04-05-2009, 05:28 PM.
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I say Bernard Hopkins is severly overrated in terms of legacy like he gets credit for Tito and DlH when both were blown up W.W.Also Winky Another blown up J.R M.W and bums ass Tarver wich he still a no body cuz he beat Roy dnt mean **** Jones was on his way down anyways.Pavlik had no expirience still a kid that only had Jermain Taylor under his belt alredy.Hes not legacy type thats all!!!
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