What fighter do you think gets to much credit and gets overrated in legacy terms?

[them_apples]

It's cool. I'm not sure where I would rank Dempsey as far as "ATG" status anyway since I've never made a list like that, but he is one of my favorite fighters to watch. His competition is very debatable so I understand where you are coming from.

Gatti is another fighter I like very much and liked watching him, but I'm not going to rate him amongst the ATG fighters as far a legacy of who they beat. Top guy for excitement though.
Dempsey is a better fighter for me than Gatti so I'm not comparing them like that.

Personal feelings have to be put aside as best you can.

It's the same with my favorite fighter, Joe Louis. If I did make a list, I do think he would be in my top 10 without question. But if we start to debate who he beats throughout history, I think some fighters may beat him, like a prime Ali...at least in the first match.

Hey I think he's an exciting fighter to watch as well

[res]

Tyson is overrated by many but underrated by just as many. It's almost sickening to see boxing historians leave Mike out and put Jack Johnson or even Dempsey on their lists (sry Benny Leonard). It's even more sickening to think they do this because of the way he conducted his life outside of boxing, yet fighters like Monzon get no heat what so-ever for beating up their wives.

Then of course you do have the rampant Tyson nuthugger that would pick him over any HW in history, but with every boxer you have these. Currently it's Rocky and Vitali.

Actually it would be sickening if they put Tyson over Dempsey.


It's hard to compare Johnson's era to the modern era, who knows on that one.

[res]

Yeah Roy Jones does get REALLY overrated.


A Roy Jones without a glass jaw would have had the raw skill to become a competitor for the number 3 pound for pound all time great spot but then he never had anything like the competition for that either.


You can "what if" all day I suppose.

[yeykax]

Trinidad was favoured to beat Hopkins, at the time of the fight I don't think anyone would've disputed that Trinidad was a genuine middleweight contender who looked real dangerous.

Also him beating Pavlik is another great win for him, not many gave B Hop a chance but now that he destroyed him everyone just thinks Pavliks rubbish, despite the fact that he schooled Taylor twice, the man who 'beat' Hopkins twice.

Man he look real dangerous against a punching bag that didnt no how to move his head so that made him a genuine M.W???I give him props for beating Pavlik but Pavlik was too green for the man as well as the worst M.W ever wich is Jermain(soft intentions)Taylor and who did he beat that was so great???Man the man is good hes just overrated IMO!!!

[letsgobrady]

bernard hopkins, his resume is not better than oscars and some are sayin oscars overrated

[them_apples]

Actually it would be sickening if they put Tyson over Dempsey.


It's hard to compare Johnson's era to the modern era, who knows on that one.

how? undisputed champion than went near 40-0 and is the youngest HW champ ever vs..what? we have argued about this far to much Res..

[AztecWanker]

Yeah Roy Jones does get REALLY overrated.


A Roy Jones without a glass jaw would have had the raw skill to become a competitor for the number 3 pound for pound all time great spot but then he never had anything like the competition for that either.


You can "what if" all day I suppose.

He's not a glassjaw IMO. Coming back down to LHW after moving up at 34 years old would mess anyone up.

[letsgobrady]

Man he look real dangerous against a punching bag that didnt no how to move his head so that made him a genuine M.W???I give him props for beating Pavlik but Pavlik was too green for the man as well as the worst M.W ever wich is Jermain(soft intentions)Taylor and who did he beat that was so great???Man the man is good hes just overrated IMO!!!

bernards resume resmbles calzaghes, they both were the longest reignin champions in their divisions and both defended the title 20 or more times.
people like to point out that trinidad was the favorite but so was lacy so does that really mean that they were a legitimate threat?
calzghe's best wins are over older men and bernards best wins are against small men, bernard is a great fighter skill wise but overrated legacy wise

[them_apples]

bernards resume resmbles calzaghes, they both were the longest reignin champions in their divisions and both defended the title 20 or more times.
people like to point out that trinidad was the favorite but so was lacy so does that really mean that they were a legitimate threat?
calzghe's best wins are over older men and bernards best wins are against small men, bernard is a great fighter skill wise but overrated legacy wise

Anyone with a long reign usually has below average competition, Hopkins having decent competition making him stand out.

[warp1432]

Listen my man Tito was a blown up W.W and the fact that he ko Joppy dnt mean he was a legitimate M.W, did you see the fight???He practically stood there like a statue and do nothing but take flush shots. And not only did he pick on weak oposition he cherry picked most of the guys against those 18 defenses of that weak ass I.B.F belt!!!

This explains it all........no matter what I'll say it won't make a difference. You were probably one of the people saying how trinidad would crush him and now hate Hopkins....