Jim Jeffries

[Jim Jeffries]

Anybody who takes to heart anything Billionaire has to say is an idiot, and Im not talking about you Jim. This is a clown who has insisted Joe Calzaghe's resume is better than Ray Leonard's. He's a moron with zero knowledge. ask him to back up his claims and he'll tuck his tail between his legs and cower like a whipped dog.

Yeah I'm done wasting my time with that racist clown. The funny part is, he tries to wind my clock with that fat farmer business. That's the only part of any of his posts that has any resemblance to the truth. The ATG HW that was 7-0-1 against HOFers, that could high jump 6 ft, that could run 100 yards in under 11 sec, who was amazingly agile for such a big man (in those days,) who had a jaw of steel and incredible endurance, was long gone when he came back after 6 years without a fight to face Johnson. An old fat farmer was all that was left. Of course if I was Hundredaire, I would give more credit to the only Johnson win of any significance who was over 5'9", or more than 170 lbs.

[black.ink]

Yeah I'm done wasting my time with that racist clown. The funny part is, he tries to wind my clock with that fat farmer business. That's the only part of any of his posts that has any resemblance to the truth. The ATG HW that was 7-0-1 against HOFers, that could high jump 6 ft, that could run 100 yards in under 11 sec, who was amazingly agile for such a big man (in those days,) who had a jaw of steel and incredible endurance, was long gone when he came back after 6 years without a fight to face Johnson. An old fat farmer was all that was left. Of course if I was Hundredaire, I would give more credit to the only Johnson win of any significance who was over 5'9", or more than 170 lbs.

Plus he got knocked out by Jess ****ing Willard! Sorry, i just had to throw that in there..........i got love for both Jeffries and Johnson.

[Kid McCoy]

Yeah I'm done wasting my time with that racist clown. The funny part is, he tries to wind my clock with that fat farmer business. That's the only part of any of his posts that has any resemblance to the truth. The ATG HW that was 7-0-1 against HOFers, that could high jump 6 ft, that could run 100 yards in under 11 sec, who was amazingly agile for such a big man (in those days,) who had a jaw of steel and incredible endurance, was long gone when he came back after 6 years without a fight to face Johnson. An old fat farmer was all that was left. Of course if I was Hundredaire, I would give more credit to the only Johnson win of any significance who was over 5'9", or more than 170 lbs.

He's actually doing Johnson a disservice by trying to discredit Jeffries. Because ironically, it was beating that old "fat farmer" that made Johnson's legend. His other title opponents were nothing special, with Johnson drawing his own colour line and steering clear of all the quality black heavies. But Jeff was held in such high regard that even six years into retirement he could come back for the biggest fight in history and be given a good chance of winning. Hence Johnson subsequently being immortalised for beating him.

[billionaire]

Yeah I'm done wasting my time with that racist clown. The funny part is, he tries to wind my clock with that fat farmer business. That's the only part of any of his posts that has any resemblance to the truth. The ATG HW that was 7-0-1 against HOFers, that could high jump 6 ft, that could run 100 yards in under 11 sec, who was amazingly agile for such a big man (in those days,) who had a jaw of steel and incredible endurance, was long gone when he came back after 6 years without a fight to face Johnson. An old fat farmer was all that was left. Of course if I was Hundredaire, I would give more credit to the only Johnson win of any significance who was over 5'9", or more than 170 lbs.

all those personal attacks.....so angry.....you must be really hurt....jaws of steel dont get knocked down 6 times....and what does high jumping have to do with boxing....i guess sergei bubka could ko king kong....cry me a river

[JAB5239]

all those personal attacks.....so angry.....you must be really hurt....jaws of steel dont get knocked down 6 times....and what does high jumping have to do with boxing....i guess sergei bubka could ko king kong....cry me a river

And intelligent posters don't put much stock into how a fighter fought an all time great after being retired for 6 years.

This would be like me calling Johnson a bum because he lost to Jess Willard.

Smarten up already.

[joseph5620]

They thought so much of Jeffries that even after a SIX YEAR LAYOFF they figured he ought to be able to beat Johnson. Who did Jeffries beat? Well he was 7-1-1 against Hall Of Famers, for starters.

Johnson made his name off of guys who wouldn't even be middleweights today and one old, fat, retired 6 year layoff ATG HW. If he wasn't the first black HW champ (huge accomplishment beating a 5'7", 168 lb midget,) and if people didn't overrate his win over Jeffries, no one would have a clue who he was.

And sorry chump, Jeffries beats Johnson, but Foreman annihilates him.

Who the hell did Jeffries ever beat that wasnt considered a small heavyweight? His biggest wins came over much smaller fighters ignoramous. pounds? And taking punishment doesnt make you great it's a called a poor defense. And no, jeffries does not deserve credit for the Peter Jackson fight. Your agenda and love for white heavyweights and disdain for black ones is obvious. And Foreman beat better heavyweights than Jeffries ever fought so don't compare the two.

[StarshipTrooper]

Who the hell did Jeffries ever beat that wasnt considered a small heavyweight? His biggest wins came over much smaller fighters ignoramous. pounds? And taking punishment doesnt make you great it's a called a poor defense. And no, jeffries does not deserve credit for the Peter Jackson fight. Your agenda and love for white heavyweights and disdain for black ones is obvious. And Foreman beat better heavyweights than Jeffries ever fought so don't compare the two.

If this is going to turn into a race war then prehaps y'all ought to take it outside.

Poet

[LondonRingRules]

Who the hell did Jeffries ever beat that wasnt considered a small heavyweight?

** Joey, come now, this bitterness will consume you. Where's the love for boxing and your fellow man?

Jeff was big man and as such suffered from Big Man's syndrome where everyone is percieved as smaller than him, thus he the bully. Jim Corbett and Peter Jackson were the prototype heavyweight sized boxers that stayed consistent all the way into the early 80s, 6-1, 190lbs. I believe Hank Griffin, Goddard was also near this size.

Bob Armstrong was 6-3, 190, young CClay sized, and Ruhlin was prime Cleve Williams sized. Sailor Tom Sharkey was a bigger framed man than Floyd Patterson, Cooper, and such. Yes, Choynski and Fitz were modern supermids, but Jeff was but a mere lad when fighting the still dangerous Choynski, and he couldn't win a title without fighting Fitz who put up a big scrap, so he gave Fitz a rematch. What's not to like?

You don't have to like Jeff as a fighter, but no need to disprespect his humanity or his win over Jackson. We know Jackson was 6yrs rusty and perhaps in poor health by then, but Jeff was only 5-0-2 going into the bout against a ring legend. Jackson figured his class and experience could easily handle some crude kid. At least Jeff takes care of the biz in short order, 3 rds, compared to Johnson who needed 15 rds against Jeff.

It's not like Jeffries's supporters always pull out the Jackson fight as proof positive of his credentials. Like all fights, it was a fight of opportune circumstances for both.

Step thee away from the bitter bile and enjoy some sunshine.

[joseph5620]

[QUOTE=LondonRingRules;4890074]** Joey, come now, this bitterness will consume you. Where's the love for boxing and your fellow man?


I'm not bitter at all. I have no love for ignorance. Especially Jim Jeffries and his bigoted agenda. The "only reason Johnson is respected is because he was the first black heavyweight champion." Sorry, I could let that slide.




Jeff was big man and as such suffered from Big Man's syndrome where everyone is percieved as smaller than him, thus he the bully. Jim Corbett and Peter Jackson were the prototype heavyweight sized boxers that stayed consistent all the way into the early 80s, 6-1, 190lbs. I believe Hank Griffin, Goddard was also near this size.

Bob Armstrong was 6-3, 190, young CClay sized,


Armstrong was no "clay" by a longshot. Check out his record.

and Ruhlin was prime Cleve Williams sized. Sailor Tom Sharkey was a bigger framed man than Floyd Patterson, Cooper, and such. Yes, Choynski and Fitz were modern supermids, but Jeff was but a mere lad when fighting the still dangerous Choynski, and he couldn't win a title without fighting Fitz who put up a big scrap, so he gave Fitz a rematch. What's not to like?


Ok, then why the double standard for who Johnson had to fight? And lets not forget that Jeffries clearly ducked Johnson and only came back to "represent the white race" His little cheerleader and Jeffries wannabe is the one who is bitter about the whipping Johnson put on him. Jeffries also admitted later that he NEVER could have beaten Johnson. How about that?

You don't have to like Jeff as a fighter,
I have nothing against him. I just don't like people making him something that he wasnt because they like his complexion.

but no need to disprespect his humanity or his win over Jackson. We know Jackson was 6yrs rusty and perhaps in poor health by then, but Jeff was only 5-0-2 going into the bout against a ring legend. Jackson figured his class and experience could easily handle some crude kid. At least Jeff takes care of the biz in short order, 3 rds, compared to Johnson who needed 15 rds against Jeff.

Please. Johnson punished Jeffries who needed ringside police to stop the fight. They even stopped filming the fallen "hero" getting KO'd.



It's not like Jeffries's supporters always pull out the Jackson fight as proof positive of his credentials.

Some have. But you're right. Most are too intelligent to say something that ignorant.

[Boogie Nights]

Who the hell did Jeffries ever beat that wasnt considered a small heavyweight? His biggest wins came over much smaller fighters ignoramous. pounds? And taking punishment doesnt make you great it's a called a poor defense. And no, jeffries does not deserve credit for the Peter Jackson fight. Your agenda and love for white heavyweights and disdain for black ones is obvious. And Foreman beat better heavyweights than Jeffries ever fought so don't compare the two.

im with my man Joseph on this one. Nothing against Jim Jeffries the fighter, but Jim Jeffries the poster is a total racist tard. Lol he puts Jeffries onto a hot seat when really the only hilite victories on his record are over an old James Corbett (who was beating the **** out of him both times before the ko came), and the mediocre Tom Sharkey.

and if this idiot wants to throw in the name Fitzsimmons there, how about using his own arguement and noting that Fits was barely a light heavy climbing into the ring.

The only meaningfull fight he had in his entire career against another great was against Johnson after a lay off. But we all know why Jeffries made a return, no need to go there. and all of us know how it ended. Jim should have stayed at his alfalfa farm lol

Lol that punk gives me red k just about every other week because his brain is not intelligent enough to provide sensible feedback. Dont worry Jeffries i aint giving you red, i forgot how to give out karma on this site a long time ago.