Muhammad Ali a fraud?

[joseph5620]

[QUOTE=them_apples;4551142]Because Foreman was already prone to gassing, and to dumb to realize the heat could tire him out. Ali, if you notice..is taking a break most of the fight, and only punching in spurts. also Ali came to Zaire before Foreman to get used to the heat.


Not true. They both arrived at the same time for the press conference and to introduce themselves to the people in Zaire.

[hugh grant]

Larry Holmes said Ali was so over rated last night on a programme about Ali and Frasier fight in phillipines thrilla in manilla.

Ali maybe was over rated because some make out he was God. And his peers probably arent all that great. But he was a great boxer, especially for a big man. And that footwork. He moved like a dancer and was fleet footed.
Ok he didnt have the biggest whack and no its no wonder his opponents recovered quickly.
But im sure he stopped opponents because the ref thought they were taking too many punches.

[Squabbles94806]

This amateur has no idea what he's talking about.

Okay...i can see Liston throwing the fight. But can you tell me why? Because he was owned by the mob. So it does make sense for him to throw 2 fights.

Henry Cooper. Dundee has stated in numerous accounts that he didn't "cut" anything. What he did was simply pull the stitching or laces which were already tattered to get a few more seconds to rest. That's a tactic not necessarily crooked. Not to mention this was in the 60's so they let a lot of undercover stuff go.

Foreman? He simply got worn out. And then he got knocked out.

Frazier? *****, you cannot sit there and tell me those 3 fights were flukes.

Quarry? Word on the street is that Quarry was a formidable opponent. He was #1 Heavweight contender. To the layperson, that means that he's got the top spot for a shot at the Heavweight crown.

Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams? Okay, "Big Cat" suffered from a gunshot wound to the stomach a couple years prior. Nonetheless, ALI handles him within 3 rounds.

Zora Folley? He was a good match for ALI at that time.

Muhammad ALI vs. The Government a.k.a "The Man." When was the last time you told Uncle Sam to go fcuk himself?

[Abstraction]

This amateur has no idea what he's talking about.

Okay...i can see Liston throwing the fight. But can you tell me why? Because he was owned by the mob. So it does make sense for him to throw 2 fights.

Henry Cooper. Dundee has stated in numerous accounts that he didn't "cut" anything. What he did was simply pull the stitching or laces which were already tattered to get a few more seconds to rest. That's a tactic not necessarily crooked. Not to mention this was in the 60's so they let a lot of undercover stuff go.

Foreman? He simply got worn out. And then he got knocked out.

Frazier? *****, you cannot sit there and tell me those 3 fights were flukes.

Quarry? Word on the street is that Quarry was a formidable opponent. He was #1 Heavweight contender. To the layperson, that means that he's got the top spot for a shot at the Heavweight crown.

Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams? Okay, "Big Cat" suffered from a gunshot wound to the stomach a couple years prior. Nonetheless, ALI handles him within 3 rounds.

Zora Folley? He was a good match for ALI at that time.

Muhammad ALI vs. The Government a.k.a "The Man." When was the last time you told Uncle Sam to go fcuk himself?

Game. Set. Match

[dans]

I've seen people try and discredit Ali before and sorry it will never work. He may have been the most skilled and intelligent fighter of all time. No rumors or attempts to discredit him will ever change the fact that he is either the best or close to the best heavyweights of all time.

[KostyaTszyu44]

muhammad ali was no fraud man

[The Jackal]

muhammad ali was no fraud man

Can say that again his skill would have been too much for any heavyweight but P4P his not the best fighter of ATG

[heyhybrid]

how dare you!!

[The Jackal]

Can say that again his skill would have been too much for any heavyweight but P4P his not the best fighter of ATG

His reflexes maybe Joe Louis could catch up with him master boxer but exposed by Frazier whats you imo

[JackJackson]

Muhammad Ali a fraud?

Dumbest question ever. Thread starter should be banned for ******ation.