i pick the hawk from the 2nd arguello fight to beat leonard.
Prime Leonard is bigger, stronger and faster than any version of Arguello let alone that faded version. As good as Pryor was, Alexis gave him fits in their first fight. If Ray hits him the way Arguello did I think he puts Aaron to sleep somewhere around the 9th round of a very exciting (all Pryors fights were) fight.
I am going by the tapes of the fights I saw...My personal bias don`t exist, I have none. I already said both were legends and great fighters. The Post said `Who will win`. I picked Pryor to win and I get crapped on. O.k. I offended some Leonard fans. Here are the facts. He got dropped about 7 or 8 times total, Ko`d by Hector Camacho and seriously beaten up by Terry Norris. I thought Hearns beat him up pretty good in the re-match, they called it a draw. Hagler fight was close...I thought Hagler won that one. Ray won a split decision (one jugde gave Hagler 2 rounds WTF?) O.k. whatever. Pryor lost to Bobby Joe Young after he came out of Coke Re-hab...but still manage to close out his career on a winstreak afterwards. Pryor never lost his intensity or balls or whatever you guys think Leonard lost. If Hearns could improve as a pro...why can`t Pryor? You all don`t like Pryor...good for you. At least his Pro record was better than Leonard`s. 39-1-0 36 ko`s
I am going by the tapes of the fights I saw...My personal bias don`t exist, I have none. I already said both were legends and great fighters. The Post said `Who will win`. I picked Pryor to win and I get crapped on. O.k. I offended some Leonard fans. Here are the facts. He got dropped about 7 or 8 times total, Ko`d by Hector Camacho and seriously beaten up by Terry Norris. I thought Hearns beat him up pretty good in the re-match, they called it a draw. Hagler fight was close...I thought Hagler won that one. Ray won a split decision (one jugde gave Hagler 2 rounds WTF?) O.k. whatever. Pryor lost to Bobby Joe Young after he came out of Coke Re-hab...but still manage to close out his career on a winstreak afterwards. Pryor never lost his intensity or balls or whatever you guys think Leonard lost. If Hearns could improve as a pro...why can`t Pryor? You all don`t like Pryor...good for you. At least his Pro record was better than Leonard`s. 39-1-0 36 ko`s
Honestly you need to learn the norms of boxing.
point 1. Leonard was never dropped, until he came back out of retirement. Not when he faced Duran, hearnd, benetiz, or even after retirment vs hagler. I imagine the person who posted this, was meaning peak forms of each fighter not the forms when they where shells of themselves. You may want to go back and do your research. How many times was peak Pryor dropped, and vs lessor foes. Now carry this up to a fighter that he has never came close to dealing with the total package that leonard offered at that size. Size, Speed, Power, balance (whicch is huge), reach, stamina, experience.... You have got to be smoking.
You keep bringing up Camacho, even he said he use to look up to Ray when Leonard fought Hearns. He said beating this form of Ray, is by no means "me trying to say I could be Ray of the 80's". You have to be one of a few ever,to even mention the Camacho fight as a gadge on Ray and how he would fair vs fighters, when he was peak. You must have forgotten, ray was out of boxing for 6 years, after a stretch when he was out of boing for 6-8 years..
2nd, all your recaps of Ray was AFTER his peak years. How about his two wars with Duran, his beating of Benitez, his stoppage of hearns. Name one fighter on Pryor's list that was as good at 147, as Benetiz, duran, hearns was. Hmmm. You can't. Pryor has never even dreamed of the beating he would recieve when he would have stepped up, to face a peak fast, bigger, harder hitting, boxing phenom with experience of fightering better, fast, just as aggressive, better defensivley, more reach, harder hitting fighters. This would be a easy fight, for Ray. Did you realize that Norris fight happened when ray was 35 had been out of boxing for 6 out of the last 8 years. What happened to Pryor when he was out of boxing for hmmmm 2 years. He came back and fought Bobby Joe Watts at welter and got Knocked the Fuc! out. Versus Bobby Joe Watts. However, you disregard this, and try to knock ray when he was 40+, out of boxing for 6 years, and go stopped by a much better fighter, or slamm ray his loss (he did not get stopped ) to Norris when as mentioned above he was out for 6 of 8 years. You have a lot to learn.
Bragging on Norris and he got his ass whipped and stopped by Bobby Joe Watts. Remember is you bring up the ******* abuse excuse, well it fits for leonard too>
Duran is a lot craftier than Pryor, he's also bigger. It would be a good fight, Leonard is 5'10, Pryor is 5'6 (not that it matters to Pryor) I see him eating a lot of shots to the face if he does manage to take Leonard down, which I don't think would happen.
Duran is a lot craftier than Pryor, he's also bigger. It would be a good fight, Leonard is 5'10, Pryor is 5'6 (not that it matters to Pryor) I see him eating a lot of shots to the face if he does manage to take Leonard down, which I don't think would happen.
Good points. This fight would not have even been close. In fact no one wanted to see this fight at the time, because pryor was a nobody until after he beat Arguello, and the 1st time this fight was disputed due to a mysterious bottle.
Now i again ask all the bandwagon people get on sites and post a lot of bull, with no facts. When did Pryor become relevant? Was this before or after Ray leonard had retired? What if, what if Ray had decided to fight a irrelevant jr welter who as history would show his only fight vs a welter he lost. What if Ray fought this irrelevant fighter, instead of Hearns. Hmmmm.
That shows just how ****** the notion that Leonard ducked Pryor.
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