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    #351
    Originally posted by Ivich

    The head of the NY Commission was William Muldoon he made appropriate noises about having the fight but did not want it in NY fearing racial unrest.I don't want to get in the middle of a civil war here but that is generally accepted as the truth of things.When was this quote written?
    Right. But Muldoon was overruled by Farley and the other commissioner and they were pushing for the Wills fight. Farley went on record saying there was no barrier to having the Wills fight, But Willie Pep then began talking about how Dishonest Farley is and not to be trusted.

    Ironically, when I looked further into Farley, I found out that the BWAA Award for Honesty and Integrity is named after who......Commissioner Farley.

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      #352
      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

      No! No more for me you win. Please stop.
      Run away. Next time save your insults until you grow a pair.

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        #353
        Originally posted by travestyny

        Right. But Muldoon was overruled by Farley and the other commissioner and they were pushing for the Wills fight. Farley went on record saying there was no barrier to having the Wills fight, But Willie Pep then began talking about how Dishonest Farley is and not to be trusted.

        Ironically, when I looked further into Farley, I found out that the BWAA Award for Honesty and Integrity is named after who......Commissioner Farley.
        Ask John Nance Garner what kind of man Farley was? He was Tammany!

        Imagine having 1929s sports writer vouch for you character? That's funny.

        Read a little about Farley's political career.

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          #354
          Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

          Ask John Nance Garner what kind of man Farley was? He was Tammany!

          Imagine having 1929s sports writer vouch for you character? That's funny.

          Read a little about Farley's political career.
          So we aren't stopping?


          Ok. Farley was Tammany. And they wanted the Wills fight...just like the public, just like Wills, just like various promoters.


          What is the problem?

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            #355
            Originally posted by travestyny

            Right. But Muldoon was overruled by Farley and the other commissioner and they were pushing for the Wills fight. Farley went on record saying there was no barrier to having the Wills fight, But Willie Pep then began talking about how Dishonest Farley is and not to be trusted.

            Ironically, when I looked further into Farley, I found out that the BWAA Award for Honesty and Integrity is named after who......Commissioner Farley.
            No arguments from me here!

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              #356
              Originally posted by travestyny

              So we aren't stopping?


              Ok. Farley was Tammany. And they wanted the Wills fight...just like the public, just like Wills, just like various promoters.


              What is the problem?
              None - for me Farley's politics was just the explanation on why the NYSAC switched it stand on the mixed fight. Farley in Muldoon told to stand down. As you pointed out as well.

              I just get a kick out of how you buy into testimonials as a statement of character.

              Do you really believe I can't find some organization giving Donald Trump an award for integrity?

              If I can will you state Trump is an honest man?

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                #357
                Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                None - for me Farley's politics was just the explanation on why the NYSAC switched it stand on the mixed fight. Farley in Muldoon told to stand down. As you pointed out as well.

                I just get a kick out of how you buy into testimonials as a statement of character.

                Do you really believe I can't find some organization giving Donald Trump an award for integrity?

                If I can will you state Trump is an honest man?
                That doesn't matter to me. It doesn't matter if Farley was the most corrupt man on the planet. He literally wanted the same thing that the public wanted: for Dempsey to defend his title against Wills.

                So I don't understand what your argument is here.

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                  #358
                  Originally posted by travestyny

                  That doesn't matter to me. It doesn't matter if Farley was the most corrupt man on the planet. He literally wanted the same thing that the public wanted: for Dempsey to defend his title against Wills.

                  So I don't understand what your argument is here.
                  Your question makes no sense. My argument was an answer to the other poster not you and it was me explaining how the NYSAC moved away from and towards supporting the fight, from Muldoon to Farley. What's not to understand?

                  You say nothing and then announce you don't understand my argument. What argument?

                  You caused the me to repeat the same damn thing three times because you had nothing to add to the conversation. What a waste of moving electrons you are.

                  Ghost is correct you're just a anti-Dempsey troll.

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                    #359
                    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                    Your question makes no sense. My argument was an answer to the other poster not you and it was me explaining how the NYSAC moved away from and towards supporting the fight, from Muldoon to Farley. What's not to understand?

                    You say nothing and then announce you don't understand my argument. What argument?

                    You caused the me to repeat the same damn thing three times because you had nothing to add to the conversation. What a waste of moving electrons you are.

                    Ghost is correct you're just a anti-Dempsey troll.

                    Let's see if we can get this straight.

                    If Farley wants the Wills Dempsey fight, what issue do you have with him stating that there was no issue with having the Wills and Dempsey fight other than Dempsey not wanting to fight Wills?


                    Don't run away. I'm already hip to the foolish games you are trying to play here. Time for you to stop running and plant your feet or just take a knee.

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                      #360
                      Originally posted by travestyny


                      Let's see if we can get this straight.

                      If Farley wants the Wills Dempsey fight, what issue do you have with him stating that there was no issue with having the Wills and Dempsey fight other than Dempsey not wanting to fight Wills?


                      Don't run away. I'm already hip to the foolish games you are trying to play here. Time for you to stop running and plant your feet or just take a knee.
                      That's twisted bs; a conveniently illogical conclusion to draw.

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