Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Carlos Monzon

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  • baddest
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    Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Carlos Monzon

    In a 15 round match who would win. Both are arguably the greatest Middleweights of all time, Monzon, a uncouth gangly Boxer who remained undefeated in all his title defenses, while Robinson, lost his title five times, only to regain it in as many.
    Who do you see winning this match?
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    #2
    Originally posted by baddest
    In a 15 round match who would win. Both are arguably the greatest Middleweights of all time, Monzon, a uncouth gangly Boxer who remained undefeated in all his title defenses, while Robinson, lost his title five times, only to regain it in as many.
    Who do you see winning this match?
    Robinson isn't widely considered the greatest middleweight, his greatness lies at Welterweight, I think a lot of good Middleweights could have taken Robinson.

    Monzon would win.

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    • JAB5239
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      #3
      Originally posted by them_apples
      Robinson isn't widely considered the greatest middleweight, his greatness lies at Welterweight, I think a lot of good Middleweights could have taken Robinson.

      Monzon would win.

      100% agree with this.

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      • Kid McCoy
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        #4
        Originally posted by them_apples
        Robinson isn't widely considered the greatest middleweight, his greatness lies at Welterweight, I think a lot of good Middleweights could have taken Robinson.

        Monzon would win.
        Robinson started his career at lightweight, and peaked at welterweight. While he was still excellent at 160, he was much more beatable, and it's where all of his losses were. He'd be at a big size disadvantage against Monzon, who was virtually unbeatable in the division, so I think King Carlos would be too much for him. Monzon by decision.

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        • KJB
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          #5
          Originally posted by Kid McCoy
          Robinson started his career at lightweight, and peaked at welterweight. While he was still excellent at 160, he was much more beatable, and it's where all of his losses were. He'd be at a big size disadvantage against Monzon, who was virtually unbeatable in the division, so I think King Carlos would be too much for him. Monzon by decision.
          OMG McCoy you post here? Crazy. Hey everyone just so you know this guy is a legit boxing historian.

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          • KJB
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            #6
            Originally posted by them_apples
            Robinson isn't widely considered the greatest middleweight, his greatness lies at Welterweight, I think a lot of good Middleweights could have taken Robinson.

            Monzon would win.
            I dont know about "a lot" of good MW taking Robinson, past his best weight or not the guy was one of the great MW champions of all time, especially before his first retirement.

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            • RJJp4pbaby
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              I think after SRR lost to LaMotta he beat him in a rematch 21 days later and won a tune up in between. He was 120-1 before the next fight. I think in todays game SRR would simply be unbeatable and undefeated and would be fighting 2 times a year by his mid 20's. he would wipe the floor with Monzon and most middleweights. As a welterweight, he is undeniably the best ever. Monzon was tough but I think SRR is too slick fo him.

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              • JAB5239
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                #8
                Originally posted by KJB
                OMG McCoy you post here? Crazy. Hey everyone just so you know this guy is a legit boxing historian.
                He knows his stuff and I like that. Just one more person for me to learn from.

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                  I think Monzon is the greatest Middleweight of all-time. SRR could beat any top MW on his day, but Carlos established himself as an unstoppable force in a strong division.

                  If it went the distance, SRR may edge a win through speed and accuracy, but Monzon would favour me to stop Ray.

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                    Styles make fights, while Robinson's peak may not have been at middleweight, he was still a force there, especially pre-layoff, I think the Robinson that beat LaMotta in their sixth and final fight would have had a genuine chance of beating Monzon, if Robinson can neutralize Monzon's jab with his movement and slide inside to do some work he could win, Monzon wasn't a great inside fighter.
                    Last edited by Silencers; 10-29-2008, 05:58 AM.

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