A closer look at Jersey Joe

[Barn]

It was fixed. Literally.

Everyone got the tip on the morning of the fight that Cook would go down in 3 or less.

They even shut down bookies in East London because of it then froze all betting on the fight across the entire UK.

Cook only took the fight to get some money. That's it.

Problem was, I'd already put £100 on it to go 6 rounds or over!!!

Because, as everyone knows, were it not fixed it would have 100% gone to Round 6.

I wasn't even aware of that.

£100 is a lot of money, I would have been ultimate pissed.

Are you in profit in your boxing bets overall? William hill had Victor Ortiz the under dog at 11-8 a week or two ago against Berto which I thought looked nice.

[IronDanHamza]

I wasn't even aware of that.

£100 is a lot of money, I would have been ultimate pissed.

Are you in profit in your boxing bets overall? William hill had Victor Ortiz the under dog at 11-8 a week or two ago against Berto which I thought looked nice.

Yeah, absolutely. In profit.

I wouldn't do it were I making loss's.

£100 loss was annoying but I very rarely lose. Throghout all of last year I only lost 2 or 3 times. I won all the rest. When I lose, I lose say 100 at the very max. When I win, I'm looking at 200+ at the least really. Profit. So, you do the Math

But I don't bet often to be honest, only when I see something worth betting on or a "sure thing" (That Cook-Burns was supposed to be)

I also almost never bet on fights with the chance of robberies. The last time I did (Lara-Williams) I was robbed of a huge pay-out.

The judges almost robbed me again in the Salido-Juan Ma rematch. Thank God Salido stopped him again

But, like I said, I really don't bet much at all really.

I saw those Ortiz-Berto odds. I'll be betting on that most likely. Ortiz will win that fight.

[Barn]

Yeah, absolutely. In profit.

I wouldn't do it were I making loss's.

£100 loss was annoying but I very rarely lose. Throghout all of last year I only lost 2 or 3 times. I won all the rest. When I lose, I lose say 100 at the very max. When I win, I'm looking at 200+ at the least really. Profit. So, you do the Math

But I don't bet often to be honest, only when I see something worth betting on or a "sure thing" (That Cook-Burns was supposed to be)

I also almost never bet on fights with the chance of robberies. The last time I did (Lara-Williams) I was robbed of a huge pay-out.

The judges almost robbed me again in the Salido-Juan Ma rematch. Thank God Salido stopped him again

But, like I said, I really don't bet much at all really.

I saw those Ortiz-Berto odds. I'll be betting on that most likely. Ortiz will win that fight.

That sounds awesome. As you say though **** betting on any fights by Top Rank and Co.

[JAB5239]

Did Louis think he'd lost? What's the source on that? I have Louis saying he thought he won the fight in every post-fight interview but that he was "disgusted by his performance."

While he never spoke the words, I'm of the opinion his apology to Walcott and his leaving the ring are tell tale signs he thought he lost. Fighters are proud and I've never heard one admit defeat when given a controversial decision. I think the recent Rios fight is proof of this.

[Barn]

While he never spoke the words, I'm of the opinion his apology to Walcott and his leaving the ring are tell tale signs he thought he lost. Fighters are proud and I've never heard one admit defeat when given a controversial decision. I think the recent Rios fight is proof of this.

Ray Leonard did against Hearns the second time I believe.

You can't blame Joe for not waiting, first time he'd done the scorecards business in a while.

All joking aside he didn't leave the ring in the first Godoy bout so that argument is kind of invalid.

[Sugarj]

While he never spoke the words, I'm of the opinion his apology to Walcott and his leaving the ring are tell tale signs he thought he lost. Fighters are proud and I've never heard one admit defeat when given a controversial decision. I think the recent Rios fight is proof of this.

Ritchie Woodhall admitted that the decision that he won when facing Glen Cately should have gone the other way. Thats one that I most remember.

Ray Leonard has admitted that he felt that Tommy Hearns should have got the decision in their second fight.

Your right though, it doesn't happen very often!!

[Sugarj]

Sorry Barn, I didn't read your post till I'd posted mine. Good call on the Ray Leonard example!!

[U_TALKING_2_ME?]

I'll try and put something together on Ray this week some time. Did you know Charley Burley layer him out cold in sparring? Seems Elmer was trying to embarrass the much smaller Burley in a sparring session when Charley exploded on him and flattened him. Not a flattering story about him, but I always found it interesting.

That would be great my man! My grandfather was a hard-core, old-school trial lawyer but he had the enthusiasm of a 9 year old at Christmas when he used to talk about 'The Violent One'.

[Anthony342]

Ritchie Woodhall admitted that the decision that he won when facing Glen Cately should have gone the other way. Thats one that I most remember.

Ray Leonard has admitted that he felt that Tommy Hearns should have got the decision in their second fight.

Your right though, it doesn't happen very often!!

Yeah agreed, not very often. Isn't there a rumor that Leonard also supposedly told Hagler he thought he should have won the decision after their fight in the ring? Also, in the Olympics, when Holyfield got that BS DQ loss, the guy that was given the win over him held up Holyfield's hand, knowing that Evander deserved to win that fight. The gold medal winner even invited Holyfield to stand on the winner's step next to him. Quite classy IMO.

[Barn]

Yeah agreed, not very often. Isn't there a rumor that Leonard also supposedly told Hagler he thought he should have won the decision after their fight in the ring? Also, in the Olympics, when Holyfield got that BS DQ loss, the guy that was given the win over him held up Holyfield's hand, knowing that Evander deserved to win that fight. The gold medal winner even invited Holyfield to stand on the winner's step next to him. Quite classy IMO.

Ray Leonard said "You're still the champ Marvin, you're still the champ." he admitted so in Legendary Nights. However I don't think it implies he thought he lost as he always stated he never wanted the belts just to beat Hagler.