Marciano was overrated and not an ATG.

[StarshipTrooper]

Ali had too many TKOs; Marciano had none because he was powerful enough to finish his opponent, not dance with him.

Last time I checked TKOs look the same as KOs in the record book. Methinks you're a wee bit power obsessed when in truth it's probably the LEAST important of the major attributes for a fighter. Chin, defense, endurance, ect. are all more important attributes.

The idea of boxing is to hit while NOT getting hit. Marciano had only half of that equation. His other attributes where sufficient to make him an ATG but quite frankly he sponged way too many punches to be considered better than Ali who at his best was rarely hit.

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[TheGreatA]

Who are you calling ugly? Marciano certainly looked better than crazy Ali.

He was a better fighter, too. Check the records: Ali had 61 fights with 5 losses, 12 KOs, and 26 TKOs whereas Marciano had 49 fights with 43 KOs and no losses. Ali had too many TKOs; Marciano had none because he was powerful enough to finish his opponent, not dance with him. He also had some manners, unlike the bigmouthed Ali, who was more mouth than fight. He, not Marciano, is the most overrated fighter in history and the most obnoxiously behaved.

Marciano had 19 TKO's.

The post above mine sums it up well.

If you believe Ali was more mouth than fight, go watch his fights against Frazier and Foreman.

This thread was made and brought back up by a poster who has been banned more than 10 times from these forums anyway, no need to even respond. He is only looking for angry responses.

[StarshipTrooper]

This thread was made and brought back up by a poster who has been banned more than 10 times from these forums anyway, no need to even respond. He is only looking for angry responses.

Too bloody right!

Ps. Still love the Battling Nelson pic.

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[logan58]

No, they are not the same. No one is knocked out with a TKO. In a TKO situation, usually the opponent is beaten half to death before the referee stops the fight whereas a KO is less savage. Ali wasn't good enough to knock out the majority of his opponents. If the idea of boxing is to hit while not getting hit, then Ali certainly failed there. He did quite a bit of dancing with most of his opponents. There were many times in Ali's fights where the audience should have stood up and sang "Let me call you sweetheart" as they did in another fight. Marciano didn't have to dance with them because he wasted no time. He got down to business, unlike Ali. It isn't true that Ali was rarely hit; but if it were, it would be because he was skilled at running around the ring.

Last time I checked TKOs look the same as KOs in the record book. Methinks you're a wee bit power obsessed when in truth it's probably the LEAST important of the major attributes for a fighter. Chin, defense, endurance, ect. are all more important attributes.

The idea of boxing is to hit while NOT getting hit. Marciano had only half of that equation. His other attributes where sufficient to make him an ATG but quite frankly he sponged way too many punches to be considered better than Ali who at his best was rarely hit.

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[JulioCesaChavez]

Marciano had 19 TKO's.

The post above mine sums it up well.


This thread was made and brought back up by a poster who has been banned more than 10 times from these forums anyway, no need to even respond. He is only looking for angry responses.

No I'm not. I'm still looking for an answer to my question: Which great fighter did he dominate in their prime to acheive greatness? Brian Nielsen had alot of KO's too. And how is a ban for non-boxing section posts relevant to this topic? This topic had to be revived because I did not get an answer.

If you believe Ali was more mouth than fight, go watch his fights against Frazier and Foreman.

You're not even meant to respond to comments that ******! The thing is alot of people who say that about Ali are the same people who think Rocky would have knocked him out! Look at the idiot who just posted before me thinking a prime Ali was less elusive than Rocky! Rocky this rocky that, he beat Ali in a mythical match up by blocking the jab with his big nose! Just answer my question yeah and we can bury the hatchet. I dare ya.

[logan58]

Marciano had no TKOs. He had 43 KOs and six decisions. In spite of his fights with Frazier and Foreman , he still ran his mouth more than he fought.

Marciano had 19 TKO's.

The post above mine sums it up well.

If you believe Ali was more mouth than fight, go watch his fights against Frazier and Foreman.

This thread was made and brought back up by a poster who has been banned more than 10 times from these forums anyway, no need to even respond. He is only looking for angry responses.

[TheGreatA]

Marciano had no TKOs. He had 43 KOs and six decisions. In spite of his fights with Frazier and Foreman , he still ran his mouth more than he fought.

Savold retired on his stool.

[StarshipTrooper]

No, they are not the same. No one is knocked out with a TKO. In a TKO situation, usually the opponent is beaten half to death before the referee stops the fight whereas a KO is less savage. Ali wasn't good enough to knock out the majority of his opponents. If the idea of boxing is to hit while not getting hit, then Ali certainly failed there. He did quite a bit of dancing with most of his opponents. There were many times in Ali's fights where the audience should have stood up and sang "Let me call you sweetheart" as they did in another fight. Marciano didn't have to dance with them because he wasted no time. He got down to business, unlike Ali. It isn't true that Ali was rarely hit; but if it were, it would be because he was skilled at running around the ring.

Dude, you need to take you ignorant ass over and see the official records whether BoxRec or some other source. They do NOT differentiate between them. When you see Ali's record as 37-5-0 (37) that "37" is all stoppages. There is no difference in the official record. Learn something for a change instead of flapping your cum dumpster on a subject you know phuck all about.

What a ******** 24 karat ignoramous.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

Marciano had no TKOs. He had 43 KOs and six decisions. In spite of his fights with Frazier and Foreman , he still ran his mouth more than he fought.

Judging by your number of posts and your complete ignorance of boxing I'd say you're somebody's alt out trolling. I swear sometime I'm really going to let fly on these needle ****s that have to troll under alts because the lack the gonads spew their verbal diarrhea under their own IDs.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

******** *******s.

Poet