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  • #91
    Originally posted by Obama View Post
    Doug Jones was 19-3-1 at the time. Guess where the 3-1 come from? His last 4 fights leading into the Foster fight. It was the equivalent of Kermit Cintron beating Alfredo Angulo. Experienced guy who couldn't beat anyone special vs a hot prospect. And don't tell me a faded blown up Bobo was someone special.
    Now youre ripping on Cintron...what did he ever do to you?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Obama View Post
      Doug Jones was 19-3-1 at the time. Guess where the 3-1 come from? His last 4 fights leading into the Foster fight. It was the equivalent of Kermit Cintron beating Alfredo Angulo. Experienced guy who couldn't beat anyone special vs a hot prospect. And don't tell me a faded blown up Bobo was someone special.
      Wasn't the Foster Jones fight at Heavy? I rate Foster hugely as a LHW but his power didn't carry up to heavy so giving him a pretty piss poor record.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by GJC View Post
        Wasn't the Foster Jones fight at Heavy? I rate Foster hugely as a LHW but his power didn't carry up to heavy so giving him a pretty piss poor record.
        Jones was 182. It was a non-title fight anyways. Don't be fooled about the weight either. Foster KOed large men. Roy Wallace was 212, Charley Polite was 201, Sonny Moore was 205, Don Quinn was 209, Dave Bailey was 204, Willi Besmanoff was 204, and Richard Benjamin was 205. Know why he could KO them? Because they were not good. Besmanoff was the only one who was once good, but long since faded. Foster made a name for himself by KOing sub par Heavyweights and par Light Heavyweights. Yet some people have the nerve to rate him the greatest LHW of all time.

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        • #94
          well, Ive never seen the Jones or Mina fights, so I have no idea if Foster was green or not during those fights. if you have and he looked the same, Ill take your word for it

          some fighters really can change dramatically within 2 years, let alone 5.

          I dont think theres any legitimate argument for calling Foster #1...I would put him behind, Moore, Charles, Spinks ahead of him, for sure. Im not too familiar with Conn or Tunney, so I dont think its fair for me to rate them.

          what about Galindez? is he well respected? havent seen many of his fights.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Obama View Post
            Doug Jones was 19-3-1 at the time. Guess where the 3-1 come from? His last 4 fights leading into the Foster fight. It was the equivalent of Kermit Cintron beating Alfredo Angulo. Experienced guy who couldn't beat anyone special vs a hot prospect. And don't tell me a faded blown up Bobo was someone special.
            I think you're judging the 4 fights a bit harshly. After all, look who they were against. Its obvious Jones was much more experienced against a higher caliber of fighter at this time and Foster was simply over matched.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Obama View Post
              Doug Jones was 19-3-1 at the time. Guess where the 3-1 come from? His last 4 fights leading into the Foster fight. It was the equivalent of Kermit Cintron beating Alfredo Angulo. Experienced guy who couldn't beat anyone special vs a hot prospect. And don't tell me a faded blown up Bobo was someone special.
              Wasn't Jones v Foster @ HW?
              Wouldn't put a case for Foster @ HW his power didn't go up with him.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                Come on my man, we're talking his 9th and 12th pro fights. I always have respect for your opinions, but bot these guys were much more seasoned vets. In comparison Foster was green.
                Doug Jones was 19-3-1 at the time. Guess where the 3-1 come from? His last 4 fights leading into the Foster fight. It was the equivalent of Kermit Cintron beating Alfredo Angulo. Experienced guy who couldn't beat anyone special vs a hot prospect. And don't tell me a faded blown up Bobo was someone special.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Obama View Post
                  Doug Jones was 19-3-1 at the time. Guess where the 3-1 come from? His last 4 fights leading into the Foster fight. It was the equivalent of Kermit Cintron beating Alfredo Angulo. Experienced guy who couldn't beat anyone special vs a hot prospect. And don't tell me a faded blown up Bobo was someone special.
                  I believe that at the time it was viewed as a fairly impressive performance by Bob Foster considering his lack of pro experience and because he had taken the fight on a short notice. He survived some early adversity to make a competitive fight out of it for a couple of rounds.

                  Jones may have lost his past couple of bouts but he was still highly regarded. Against Folley, he had went to a very close decision against one of the top heavyweight contenders of the day. He later KO'd Folley who was actually supposed to be the original opponent instead of Foster for Jones.

                  This is a pay-per-view article but it states that Jones was favoured:

                  http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/courant/...r&pqatl=google

                  It also states that Foster had 12 professional fights but that must be false.

                  Doug Jones actually beat Foster in the amateurs.

                  Foster to me shouldn't be viewed as the dominating force that he is by some. He was more so a fighter who learned the hard way and improved after every loss.





                  Last edited by TheGreatA; 09-21-2009, 09:26 AM.

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                  • #99
                    1- Ezzard Charles
                    2-Gene Tunney
                    3-Archie Moore
                    4-Roy Jones
                    5-Billy Conn
                    6-Bob Foster
                    7-Sam Langford
                    8-Harry Greb
                    9-Spinks
                    10-Joey Maxim

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                    • Chuvalo ko'd Jones, ha! Long live mighty George!

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