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  • #81
    I think he lost to Doug Jones and uh...Mora? at 175.

    but that was like 5 or 6 years before he won the title, so I would personally give him(Foster) a pass.

    still, Ill admit that Foster had a fairly weak era from what Ive seen. like him though, just nasty power.

    Mike Spinks' era was real strong, so even though he didnt fight there long, I think he deserves quite a high ranking.

    I dont know much about the older than 70s fighters though, apart from Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore. if I cant find tape of them and their opposition, I dont think its fair for me to rank them.
    so guys like Tunney...I know nothing about. lol.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
      Alright, this is my first actual 175 top 10 that I've put a bit of time into. Its actually alot different than past ones I've put together with fighters I thought I knew about. Tell me what you think, and if you have one yourself, post it. Constructive criticism welcome.

      1. Archie Moore -185-23-11(131) More career ko's than any fight in history. Fought such names as durelle, Maxim, Lowry, Lytell, chase, Holman Williams, Marshall, Johnson, satterfield and Johnson.

      2. Gene Tunney -81-1-3(48) fought some of the best fighters in history, some multiple times. Has such greats on his resume as Greb, Carpentier, Delaney, Levinski and Loughran. Moved up to heavyweight and beat Jack Dempsey twice.

      3. Ezzard charles - 90-25-1(51) In my opinion p4p the best guy on the list. Beat fighters such as Moore, Marshall, Maxim and Bivins. Was also a heavyweight champion.

      4. Tommy Gibbons - 94-5-3(48) Fought a who's who of great fighters from the early twentieth century including Kid Norfolk, Tunney, Greb, Carpentier, Miske, Levinski and Meehan.

      5. Bob Foster - 56-8-1(46) In my opinion the hardest hitting fighter ever below heavyweight. His comp wasn't as good as most on this list, but he was 15-0 in lightheavy title fights. capeable of beating any fighter on this list IMO.

      6. Micheal Spinks - 31-1(21) Won gold at the 1976 olympics. Held the title 4 years before moving up to beat Larry Holmes for the heavyweight championship. Beat top lightheavies John Conteh, Eddie Mustapha Muhammed, Qawi, Lopez and Johnson.

      7. Billy Conn - 64-12-1(15) Conn is another fighter I rank relatively high p4p. He was an excellent middleweight before moving up to 175, and almost beat Joe Louis in a bid for the heavyweight title. Fought such notable fighters at 175 as gus Lesnivich, Bettina, Krieger, and Freddie Apostoli.

      8. Tommy Loughran - 116-30-13(17) One of the best fighters of the roaring twenties. Fought the great Harry Greb to a draw. Also fough such top fighters from that period Young Stribling, Jimmy Slattery, McTigue, Delaney and Carpentier.

      9. Mike McTigue - 108-46-13(52) The only fighter on this list not in the Hall of fame, and still somewhat of a question mark in my mind. But Mctigue fought a who's who of his era with mixed result. Among some of the names are Levinski, Loughran, siki, Stribling, Walker, Flower and Delaney.

      10. Philidelphia Jack O'Brien - 134-11-23(54) Another question mark in my opinion, but I have seen him ranked highly by some notable historians. Made his bones against some top fighters from the early 20th century. Marvin Hart, who would go on to win the heavyweight title. Peter Maher and Joe choynski who were both rated fighter at 175b and heavy. And he also fought the great Jack Johnson to a draw while being out weighed by almost 45lbs.
      Michael Spinks never fought John Conteh

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      • #83
        Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
        I think he lost to Doug Jones and uh...Mora? at 175.

        but that was like 5 or 6 years before he won the title, so I would personally give him(Foster) a pass.

        still, Ill admit that Foster had a fairly weak era from what Ive seen. like him though, just nasty power.

        Mike Spinks' era was real strong, so even though he didnt fight there long, I think he deserves quite a high ranking.


        I dont know much about the older than 70s fighters though, apart from Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore. if I cant find tape of them and their opposition, I dont think its fair for me to rank them.
        so guys like Tunney...I know nothing about. lol.
        The Spinks era was jacked, and Micheal was the best of it by far. I use to dislike his herky jerky style, but dude wouldn't be much of an underdog against any great in history.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
          The Spinks era was jacked, and Micheal was the best of it by far. I use to dislike his herky jerky style, but dude wouldn't be much of an underdog against any great in history.
          hahaha, yea, herky jerky is exactly how you would describe it. it was slightly annoying(probably even more so for his opponents), but Spinks had a hell of an arsenal of punches.

          Him vs Charles, Moore, and Holyfield would have been some pretty interesting fights, to say the least.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
            hahaha, yea, herky jerky is exactly how you would describe it. it was slightly annoying(probably even more so for his opponents), but Spinks had a hell of an arsenal of punches.

            Him vs Charles, Moore, and Holyfield would have been some pretty interesting fights, to say the least.
            I've always thought Spinks vs Tunney or Conn would be interesting too. A fight with Bob foster would be amazing also. Both big lightheavies with power to spare.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
              I think he lost to Doug Jones and uh...Mora? at 175.
              Mina, Mauro Mina, the greatest Peruvian fighter of all time. Mina also beat Eddie Cotton (x2), Henry Hank, Sixto Rodriguez, and Von Clay.

              Isn't it funny that Foster gets a pass for all his damn losses? He was either green or up against a decent Heavyweight so it "doesn't count". I give the man a pass for his last 2 losses, the rest matter on some level.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                Michael Spinks never fought John Conteh
                You're right. My bad.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Obama View Post
                  Mina, Mauro Mina, the greatest Peruvian fighter of all time. Mina also beat Eddie Cotton (x2), Henry Hank, Sixto Rodriguez, and Von Clay.

                  Isn't it funny that Foster gets a pass for all his damn losses? He was either green or up against a decent Heavyweight so it "doesn't count". I give the man a pass for his last 2 losses, the rest matter on some level.
                  well, it was 5 years before he became champ and a few years into his pro career, so you could say he was green.

                  and losing to Frazier and Ali isnt really embarressing either, since theyre top 10 HWs that were near prime.

                  the thing that brings Foster down to me is his weaker opposition. he beat highly rated guys, but...it wasnt the strongest era, imo.

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                  • #89
                    Deontay Wilder is green, Bob Foster was not. Pre-prime is not green. Green is when you haven't even learned what you're SUPPOSED to do in the ring. This is why you see Wilder fighting bums, while Foster was fighting respectable opposition even before he lost his first 2 fights.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Obama View Post
                      Deontay Wilder is green, Bob Foster was not. Pre-prime is not green. Green is when you haven't even learned what you're SUPPOSED to do in the ring. This is why you see Wilder fighting bums, while Foster was fighting respectable opposition even before he lost his first 2 fights.
                      Come on my man, we're talking his 9th and 12th pro fights. I always have respect for your opinions, but bot these guys were much more seasoned vets. In comparison Foster was green.

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