Top 10 Lightheavies All time

[TheGreatA]

Chuvalo ko'd Jones, ha! Long live mighty George!

It was one of Chuvalo's better fights for sure. Both were pressure fighters, Jones perhaps the better technically but Chuvalo was too big, strong and durable.

Few ever beat Chuvalo in a slugging match.

[1SILVA]

Alright, this is my first actual 175 top 10 that I've put a bit of time into. Its actually alot different than past ones I've put together with fighters I thought I knew about. Tell me what you think, and if you have one yourself, post it. Constructive criticism welcome.

1. Archie Moore -185-23-11(131) More career ko's than any fight in history. Fought such names as durelle, Maxim, Lowry, Lytell, chase, Holman Williams, Marshall, Johnson, satterfield and Johnson.

2. Gene Tunney -81-1-3(48) fought some of the best fighters in history, some multiple times. Has such greats on his resume as Greb, Carpentier, Delaney, Levinski and Loughran. Moved up to heavyweight and beat Jack Dempsey twice.

3. Ezzard charles - 90-25-1(51) In my opinion p4p the best guy on the list. Beat fighters such as Moore, Marshall, Maxim and Bivins. Was also a heavyweight champion.

4. Tommy Gibbons - 94-5-3(48) Fought a who's who of great fighters from the early twentieth century including Kid Norfolk, Tunney, Greb, Carpentier, Miske, Levinski and Meehan.

5. Bob Foster - 56-8-1(46) In my opinion the hardest hitting fighter ever below heavyweight. His comp wasn't as good as most on this list, but he was 15-0 in lightheavy title fights. capeable of beating any fighter on this list IMO.

6. Micheal Spinks - 31-1(21) Won gold at the 1976 olympics. Held the title 4 years before moving up to beat Larry Holmes for the heavyweight championship. Beat top lightheavies John Conteh, Eddie Mustapha Muhammed, Qawi, Lopez and Johnson.

7. Billy Conn - 64-12-1(15) Conn is another fighter I rank relatively high p4p. He was an excellent middleweight before moving up to 175, and almost beat Joe Louis in a bid for the heavyweight title. Fought such notable fighters at 175 as gus Lesnivich, Bettina, Krieger, and Freddie Apostoli.

8. Tommy Loughran - 116-30-13(17) One of the best fighters of the roaring twenties. Fought the great Harry Greb to a draw. Also fough such top fighters from that period Young Stribling, Jimmy Slattery, McTigue, Delaney and Carpentier.

9. Mike McTigue - 108-46-13(52) The only fighter on this list not in the Hall of fame, and still somewhat of a question mark in my mind. But Mctigue fought a who's who of his era with mixed result. Among some of the names are Levinski, Loughran, siki, Stribling, Walker, Flower and Delaney.

10. Philidelphia Jack O'Brien - 134-11-23(54) Another question mark in my opinion, but I have seen him ranked highly by some notable historians. Made his bones against some top fighters from the early 20th century. Marvin Hart, who would go on to win the heavyweight title. Peter Maher and Joe choynski who were both rated fighter at 175b and heavy. And he also fought the great Jack Johnson to a draw while being out weighed by almost 45lbs.

Excellent list. I would have to put Charles first as he defeated Moore three times at 175 pounds. Still don't understand how Ezzard never received a shot at the 175 pound crown. My top ten as follows:

Charles, Tunney, Moore, Foster, Spinks, Gibbons, Roy Jones, Conn, O'Brien, Mctigue.

[Benncollinsaad]

I don't think Spinks ever fought Conteh. It was Saad Muhammad. And you forgot to mention Jim McDonald, a top contender at the time who also fought Czyz for the IBF title. Tough fellow.

[mickey malone]

1. Ezzard Charles
2. Archie Moore
3. Bob Foster
4. Michael Moorer
5. Gene Tunney
6. Michael Spinks
7. Virgil Hill
8. Roy Jones
9. **** Tiger
10. Georges Carpentier
11. Maxi Rosenbloom
12. Fabrice Tiozzo
13. Dwight Muhammad Quawi
14. Billy Conn
15. Tommy Loughran
16. Darius Michaczewski
17. Joey Maxim
18. Mathew Saad Muhammad
19. Henry Maske
20. Bob Fitzsimmons

Others who should possibly be included according to opinion, are Jose Torres, Kid Norfolk, Chad Dawson, Leonzer Barber, Bobby Czyz, Willie Pastrano, Victor Galindez, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Tommy Gibbons, Harold Johnson, Mike McTigue, John Henry Lewis, Jack O'Brien, Mike McCallum, John Conteh, Mate Parlov..

[Benncollinsaad]

I'm glad someone gives Tiozzo and Michalczewski credit. But I wouldn't rank Tiozzo that much above Dariusz.

I'm especially glad to see you too appreciate Virgil Hill as much as I do.

[Benncollinsaad]

How high would you rank Marvin Johnson?

[mickey malone]

How high would you rank Marvin Johnson?

I must admit, the thought that I may have underrated Michalczewski did cross my mind, & Tiozzo gets terribly underatted by others.. Both men were very hard to beat on their day.. Virgil Hill was a master boxer at 175, who also doesn't get the recognition he deserves..
I wouldn't hold Marvin Hart to highly.. Beat an over the hill Galindez to win the title, & lost it quite convincingly to Eddie Mustaffa Muhammad in his first defense..

[Benncollinsaad]

I must admit, the thought that I may have underrated Michalczewski did cross my mind, & Tiozzo gets terribly underatted by others.. Both men were very hard to beat on their day.. Virgil Hill was a master boxer at 175, who also doesn't get the recognition he deserves..
I wouldn't hold Marvin Hart to highly.. Beat an over the hill Galindez to win the title, & lost it quite convincingly to Eddie Mustaffa Muhammad in his first defense..

I agree, Johnson was a blood&guts warrior, but not a great boxer. And Hill doesn't get enough recognition, he gets almost none these days! Five time champion at two different divisions who beat some of the best fighters of his time at 175. The only man to beat Tiozzo-twice!

[mickey malone]

I agree, Johnson was a blood&guts warrior, but not a great boxer. And Hill doesn't get enough recognition, he gets almost none these days! Five time champion at two different divisions who beat some of the best fighters of his time at 175. The only man to beat Tiozzo-twice!

The only man to beat Tiozzo period...

[GJC]

1. Ezzard Charles
2. Archie Moore
3. Bob Foster
4. Michael Moorer
5. Gene Tunney
6. Michael Spinks
7. Virgil Hill
8. Roy Jones
9. **** Tiger
10. Georges Carpentier
11. Maxi Rosenbloom
12. Fabrice Tiozzo
13. Dwight Muhammad Quawi
14. Billy Conn
15. Tommy Loughran
16. Darius Michaczewski
17. Joey Maxim
18. Mathew Saad Muhammad
19. Henry Maske
20. Bob Fitzsimmons

Others who should possibly be included according to opinion, are Jose Torres, Kid Norfolk, Chad Dawson, Leonzer Barber, Bobby Czyz, Willie Pastrano, Victor Galindez, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Tommy Gibbons, Harold Johnson, Mike McTigue, John Henry Lewis, Jack O'Brien, Mike McCallum, John Conteh, Mate Parlov..

Conn and Loughran are a bit low Mickey?