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Originally posted by moneytheman View Post
So why have you not named anybody why did those other crazy idiots when I asked them mutiple times to prove me wrong they didnt that obviously means it is no video that can prove me wrong cause it would be easy to say a name wouldn't it
And no i told you respect and trolling is why they lie and act blind
Where was the exact movement of joe jake srr in 70s why didn't they make pro if they were that skilled why can't I find any fighter using that exact movements they used
Why do they show stuff like joe fighting max or somebody else that looks trash why won't they provide video of joe fighting someone with the movement and skill level of a 70s fighter
I name Reggie a no name who is 1 man and way more advanced and smoother then the whole 40s i just watched the man last night and I watched Jake vs Eugene looks absolutely horrible very easy to read slow really slow sloopy and really basic compared to reg both jake and Eugene look that way
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Originally posted by moneytheman View Post
Fix your vision and seek help crazy person
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
My vision is fine. Like I said, it's hilarious how I'm in the 99% that agree and you're the 1% that doesn't, but we're all the crazy ones. Think about that for a second and than call your therapist and get an appointment for this afternoon. You need it.
I cant help that your crazy and can't see good I know what I see and what I don't and I dont see the fighters using the same advanced and smoothness they had from 70s-90s its just not there and you cant see good or maybe you can see but your so crazy you have hallucinations and think you see stuff that's not there either way it doesn't change my eyes
Why do I see mutiple fighters from 40s all similar with the same flaws
all basic sloopy very easy to read and slow and stiff Every last one
But as I said for the 3rd a no name reg was way more advanced and smoother then the whole era
Even as I said the nba and all other sports had way more movement and smoothness in 70s compared to 40s but your so looney you have hallucinations you as I said actually think you see boxers as smooth and use as much movement without as many flaws in 70s as they did 40s which looks trash
Yet you Gave that other looney respect for duran who was way more advanced and smoother then the whole 40s that showed to you implied I am right which I always have been
Duran would go through the whole 40s undefeatedLast edited by Ascended; 11-16-2022, 09:26 AM.
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Originally posted by moneytheman View Post
Sure your vision is good saying people who obviously looks trash in 40s and saying they look better then 70s-90s yet no trainer as I said let any of those exact movements in 70s-90s make pro
I cant help that your crazy and can't see good I know what I see and what I don't and I dont see the fighters using the same advanced and smoothness they had from 70s-90s its just not there and you cant see good or maybe you can see but your so crazy you have hallucinations and think you see stuff that's not there either way it doesn't change my eyes
Why do I see mutiple fighters from 40s all similar with the same flaws
all basic sloopy very easy to read and slow and stiff Every last one
But as I said for the 3rd a no name reg was way more advanced and smoother then the whole era
Even as I said the nba and all other sports had way more movement and smoothness in 70s compared to 40s but your so looney you have hallucinations you as I said actually think you see boxers as smooth and use as much movement without as many flaws in 70s as they did 40s which looks trash
Yet you Gave that other looney respect for duran who was way more advanced and smoother then the whole 40s that showed to you implied I am right which I always have been
Duran would go through the whole 40s undefeated
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
You wrote all this, and all these posts the last several months and you still can't explain the "advances" or what smoothness has to do with winning a fight? It's because you have no clue what you're talking about.
your probably so out of reality your using one of those fat phones from early 2000s or a pc from 90s your that looney
And that's a lie cause I just did explain 2 days ago to that other looney ivich who said that same lie and he had no response cause it was none he knows like you have always knew and like I told you I destroyed those other crazy idiots legends like you on esb who had no response eitherLast edited by Ascended; 11-16-2022, 12:36 PM.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
You wrote all this, and all these posts the last several months and you still can't explain the "advances" or what smoothness has to do with winning a fight? It's because you have no clue what you're talking about.
I see walking in smoothly guard up throwing punches
walking in throwing shots ducking throwing combos smoothly
I see walking in throwing shots from angles while moving back to avoid
upperbody movement and foot work is good and other advances in movement
walking in throwing but not as smoothly from joes vid
missing the other things I said compared to tom the man who fought like mike but not as quick or used those fancy switches into another angle
louis counters but it's mostly from a forward position not from mutiples like tom could do
joes footwork is real slow stiff like tiptoeing looks to be almost the same as any opponent except a few
head movement is not there
cunnningham compared to louis
he came in and out
steve could pick shots counter with a couple shots or mutiple combos from a missed shot while moving back
look how he can move then quick switch to another angle and throw another punch
can throw jabs quick from distance switch to another stance and throw combos and people act like joe could do better then this never have he seen this type of advanced movement
brigs vs lenno
brigs could punch in quick and out thats using a angle
Briggs could duck while punching then duck and punch
and then you see how in Louis era they didnt do that as smoothly or not at all
lennox punches while moving forward smoothly or punching while keeping the guard up moving back or circling around
This is all from esb last year and from video
This is from earlier this year on this site
Bill he moves good he punches while moving forward his tech is good but this isn't sloopy or is his tech bad cause im talking looking back at his era only
he was fast and good with combos from angles
at times when he wanted to be patient he could be and counter good
Jersey the best mover of the whole era flashy could pick you apart from range
great head movement
Was able to confuse his victims cause of the flashy head movement
great counter puncher when he wanted to show off combined with his combos with speed
klit doesn't move flashy like jers moves real slow compared to both but has a big reach
isn't as active as those 2 seems like that would be a flaw yea that can be seen as that but looking at it this way made him more dangerous
His low activeness allowed him to read good
he was a picker i would compare his patience that of a young Ali but even more patient cause wlad was slower he needed to be more patient cause his speed was slow but great aiming which is hard to be at that type of speed
often at times waited for his person to punch then intercepted their punches
able to keep a person at range with his hard jabs
defense agian not as active as jers and bill on the move but kept 1 arm up while punching with the other smoothly
both jers and still being active more then wlad their punch tech still wasnt as smooth and both most the time were more wild compared
So no your a liar your what I call you always and others every detail is exactly as I seen it on video with no bias at all I compared exactly what's on video and as I explained its mutiple angles and movements along with lack of smoothness in movements they didnt have in Joe's time or the time before his and most didnt have those same advanced angles even in 70s
So your the one who doesn't watch matches I watch every detail I have no reason to just call Joe's era or the time before his was trash if I seen It was as advanced as fighters I described in detail I would say it
I watched every video side by side on my laptop and broke down every detail as i told you i have no reason to lie or just to put down a certain era for no reason i have no reason to
I'm here to tell the truth and that's what i do the joe era looks horrible compared to every fighter i named and i only named like 4
And I even gave exact detail of jersey and louis which jersey was the best mover of the whole era and even him looked basic and stiff slow sloopy like the rest when compared to the people I named
So yea your crazy and can't see good as I always said cause anybody can see everything I ever said is fact nothing is madeup or is it any lie I described exact movements from video
Now can you give exact detail of what you see of course not what you will say is some ****** quotes of how some words of people who seen the 40s people in person as if they fought different then video shows
You won't give the same detail from your own eyes cause it will be the exact way as I described which was trash
None of the fighters I named who had the advances in movement and smoothness existed in Joe's time your finished crazy liar just like ivich who was finished when i gave him the same breakdown that he had no response to cause it is none
just like those other crazy idiots who are legends on esb who I asked mutiple times to prove me wrong with video and nobody even still had provided video to even go over other people who say the same thing as me
No video will ever prove me wrong cause the fighters and advances in skill just didn't exist and you or no ****** quote or somebody who is lying or just giving respect can make 70s-90s techinical skills and movements exist in 40s cause then it would have to exist in all other sports cause as I said all sports in 70s show a big jump in skill and movement from 40s every last sport
Your crazy and can't see good just like the rest and you have hallucinations like I told you just like the restLast edited by Ascended; 11-16-2022, 01:03 PM.
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Originally posted by moneytheman View Post
morrison vs louis
I see walking in smoothly guard up throwing punches
walking in throwing shots ducking throwing combos smoothly
I see walking in throwing shots from angles while moving back to avoid
upperbody movement and foot work is good and other advances in movement
walking in throwing but not as smoothly from joes vid
missing the other things I said compared to tom the man who fought like mike but not as quick or used those fancy switches into another angle
louis counters but it's mostly from a forward position not from mutiples like tom could do
joes footwork is real slow stiff like tiptoeing looks to be almost the same as any opponent except a few
head movement is not there
cunnningham compared to louis
he came in and out
steve could pick shots counter with a couple shots or mutiple combos from a missed shot while moving back
look how he can move then quick switch to another angle and throw another punch
can throw jabs quick from distance switch to another stance and throw combos and people act like joe could do better then this never have he seen this type of advanced movement
brigs vs lenno
brigs could punch in quick and out thats using a angle
Briggs could duck while punching then duck and punch
and then you see how in Louis era they didnt do that as smoothly or not at all
lennox punches while moving forward smoothly or punching while keeping the guard up moving back or circling around
This is all from esb last year and from video
This is from earlier this year on this site
Bill he moves good he punches while moving forward his tech is good but this isn't sloopy or is his tech bad cause im talking looking back at his era only
he was fast and good with combos from angles
at times when he wanted to be patient he could be and counter good
Jersey the best mover of the whole era flashy could pick you apart from range
great head movement
Was able to confuse his victims cause of the flashy head movement
great counter puncher when he wanted to show off combined with his combos with speed
klit doesn't move flashy like jers moves real slow compared to both but has a big reach
isn't as active as those 2 seems like that would be a flaw yea that can be seen as that but looking at it this way made him more dangerous
His low activeness allowed him to read good
he was a picker i would compare his patience that of a young Ali but even more patient cause wlad was slower he needed to be more patient cause his speed was slow but great aiming which is hard to be at that type of speed
often at times waited for his person to punch then intercepted their punches
able to keep a person at range with his hard jabs
defense agian not as active as jers and bill on the move but kept 1 arm up while punching with the other smoothly
both jers and still being active more then wlad their punch tech still wasnt as smooth and both most the time were more wild compared
So no your a liar your what I call you always and others every detail is exactly as I seen it on video with no bias at all I compared exactly what's on video and as I explained its mutiple angles and movements along with lack of smoothness in movements they didnt have in Joe's time or the time before his and most didnt have those same advanced angles even in 70s
So your the one who doesn't watch matches I watch every detail I have no reason to just call Joe's era or the time before his was trash if I seen It was as advanced as fighters I described in detail I would say it
I watched every video side by side on my laptop and broke down every detail as i told you i have no reason to lie or just to put down a certain era for no reason i have no reason to
I'm here to tell the truth and that's what i do the joe era looks horrible compared to every fighter i named and i only named like 4
And I even gave exact detail of jersey and louis which jersey was the best mover of the whole era and even him looked basic and stiff slow sloopy like the rest when compared to the people I named
So yea your crazy and can't see good as I always said cause anybody can see everything I ever said is fact nothing is madeup or is it any lie I described exact movements from video
Now can you give exact detail of what you see of course not what you will say is some ****** quotes of how some words of people who seen the 40s people in person as if they fought different then video shows
You won't give the same detail from your own eyes cause it will be the exact way as I described which was trash
None of the fighters I named who had the advances in movement and smoothness existed in Joe's time your finished crazy liar just like ivich who was finished when i gave him the same breakdown that he had no response to cause it is none
just like those other crazy idiots who are legends on esb who I asked mutiple times to prove me wrong with video and nobody even still had provided video to even go over other people who say the same thing as me
No video will ever prove me wrong cause the fighters and advances in skill just didn't exist and you or no ****** quote or somebody who is lying or just giving respect can make 70s-90s techinical skills and movements exist in 40s cause then it would have to exist in all other sports cause as I said all sports in 70s show a big jump in skill and movement from 40s every last sport
Your crazy and can't see good just like the rest and you have hallucinations like I told you just like the rest
Your comparison with Walcot and Klitschko... your describing very basic activities with no real analysis. Why don't you actually watch a trainer describing skills, then watch a fighter?
Last edited by billeau2; 11-16-2022, 01:33 PM.
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Originally posted by moneytheman View Post
morrison vs louis
I see walking in smoothly guard up throwing punches
walking in throwing shots ducking throwing combos smoothly
I see walking in throwing shots from angles while moving back to avoid
upperbody movement and foot work is good and other advances in movement
walking in throwing but not as smoothly from joes vid
missing the other things I said compared to tom the man who fought like mike but not as quick or used those fancy switches into another angle
louis counters but it's mostly from a forward position not from mutiples like tom could do
joes footwork is real slow stiff like tiptoeing looks to be almost the same as any opponent except a few
head movement is not there
cunnningham compared to louis
he came in and out
steve could pick shots counter with a couple shots or mutiple combos from a missed shot while moving back
look how he can move then quick switch to another angle and throw another punch
can throw jabs quick from distance switch to another stance and throw combos and people act like joe could do better then this never have he seen this type of advanced movement
brigs vs lenno
brigs could punch in quick and out thats using a angle
Briggs could duck while punching then duck and punch
and then you see how in Louis era they didnt do that as smoothly or not at all
lennox punches while moving forward smoothly or punching while keeping the guard up moving back or circling around
This is all from esb last year and from video
This is from earlier this year on this site
Bill he moves good he punches while moving forward his tech is good but this isn't sloopy or is his tech bad cause im talking looking back at his era only
he was fast and good with combos from angles
at times when he wanted to be patient he could be and counter good
Jersey the best mover of the whole era flashy could pick you apart from range
great head movement
Was able to confuse his victims cause of the flashy head movement
great counter puncher when he wanted to show off combined with his combos with speed
klit doesn't move flashy like jers moves real slow compared to both but has a big reach
isn't as active as those 2 seems like that would be a flaw yea that can be seen as that but looking at it this way made him more dangerous
His low activeness allowed him to read good
he was a picker i would compare his patience that of a young Ali but even more patient cause wlad was slower he needed to be more patient cause his speed was slow but great aiming which is hard to be at that type of speed
often at times waited for his person to punch then intercepted their punches
able to keep a person at range with his hard jabs
defense agian not as active as jers and bill on the move but kept 1 arm up while punching with the other smoothly
both jers and still being active more then wlad their punch tech still wasnt as smooth and both most the time were more wild compared
So no your a liar your what I call you always and others every detail is exactly as I seen it on video with no bias at all I compared exactly what's on video and as I explained its mutiple angles and movements along with lack of smoothness in movements they didnt have in Joe's time or the time before his and most didnt have those same advanced angles even in 70s
So your the one who doesn't watch matches I watch every detail I have no reason to just call Joe's era or the time before his was trash if I seen It was as advanced as fighters I described in detail I would say it
I watched every video side by side on my laptop and broke down every detail as i told you i have no reason to lie or just to put down a certain era for no reason i have no reason to
I'm here to tell the truth and that's what i do the joe era looks horrible compared to every fighter i named and i only named like 4
And I even gave exact detail of jersey and louis which jersey was the best mover of the whole era and even him looked basic and stiff slow sloopy like the rest when compared to the people I named
So yea your crazy and can't see good as I always said cause anybody can see everything I ever said is fact nothing is madeup or is it any lie I described exact movements from video
Now can you give exact detail of what you see of course not what you will say is some ****** quotes of how some words of people who seen the 40s people in person as if they fought different then video shows
You won't give the same detail from your own eyes cause it will be the exact way as I described which was trash
None of the fighters I named who had the advances in movement and smoothness existed in Joe's time your finished crazy liar just like ivich who was finished when i gave him the same breakdown that he had no response to cause it is none
just like those other crazy idiots who are legends on esb who I asked mutiple times to prove me wrong with video and nobody even still had provided video to even go over other people who say the same thing as me
No video will ever prove me wrong cause the fighters and advances in skill just didn't exist and you or no ****** quote or somebody who is lying or just giving respect can make 70s-90s techinical skills and movements exist in 40s cause then it would have to exist in all other sports cause as I said all sports in 70s show a big jump in skill and movement from 40s every last sport
Your crazy and can't see good just like the rest and you have hallucinations like I told you just like the rest
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