If Tua Fought Marciano With Those Mittens!!

[them_apples]

I think Tua could handle Rocky's power and would force hm into a toe to toe war. If he can take Ibaebuchi and Lewis' best punches he can take Rocky's. Rocky was knocked down by an old LHW Moore, got busted up by LHW Charles. I think Tua's size and power would match up against Rocky's stamina and limited footwork. Rocky was prone to getting into trade wars in the middle of the ring, that's not where you want to be with Tua. If you are going to be the smaller fighter you need the skill-set of Chris Byrd who defeated Tua with speed and footwork. Rocky could certainly last the 12 rounds, but if it's a close fight I see Rocky hitting the canvas a time or two and giving up those two-point rounds to Tua, which could be the difference in the fight.

I don't think Ike hits harder than Rocky. Tua does have a good chin though. Tua can also drop Rocky as well. Tua is shorter than Rocky, but a lot heavier. Rocky is extremely tough and a better inside fighter, hes gonna go 12 rounds unless you kill him.

Moore and Charles were very crafty, they caught rocky with punches he didnt see. Tua isnt crafty, but hes stronger and hes going to take a better shot for sure. his best shot is a left hook, debateable how effective that is in this fight.

as Others said as well, Rocky's era wasnt using tiny Mittens

[them_apples]

problem with Rocky is casuals do the "eye test" but there eyes fail them because they dont know what they are watching (looking sexy doesnt mean you are a skilled boxer). I used to argue with some of the foolish wannabe trainers at my old gym. Hated the fact that a younger guy knew 50x more about boxing than they did, they didnt even know who Terry Norris was. These are the guys that say Rocky is a slow facefirst brawler that just out toughed guys.

You cant win a world title being a facefirst fighter, Rocky barely got hit. Or maybe you can win a title but you wont have a very long career. Bobby Chacon is a facefirst fighter. Benny Paret was a face first fighter. George Chuvalo...etc etc

Rocky Barely got hit. in Fact his chin was probably average, he just had a lot of heart and amazing conditoning.

[uncle ben]

Tua wasn't any better than Galento

[QueensburyRules]

Tua wasn't any better than Galento

- -Tua better record never KOed.

Two Ton lesser record KOed many x.

What grade U in?

[billeau2]

- -Tua better record never KOed.

Two Ton lesser record KOed many x.

What grade U in?

You in reform school? Galento fought better competition Just hot getting Koed means squat... Like Vauev punch means squat, now put on big boy pants imbecile.

[QueensburyRules]

- -Galento KOed by guys at the fringe of a 50 rating today.

China!

[billeau2]

- -Galento KOed by guys at the fringe of a 50 rating today.

China!

Inglish m o ther f uker! Engrish!!!

[phallus]

If we compare each of their best wins, Rocky has the edge. Tua’s best wins were Moorer, Rahman, Ruiz and Oquendo. Hardly a murderer’s row. Rocky has been knocked down by smaller fighters and Tua has never been KO’d despite taking best punches of Ibaebuchi, Lewis and Rahman who were much larger and stronger than any of Rock’s opponents. Rocky had more movement, he bobbed and weaved and attacked to the body and head relentlessly. Tua could **** with the best of them. Tough fight to call.

I respect your opinion Ghost if you think this would be close: Just answer me this: You got the rock and hes getting ready to train for this fight... and train he will, Marciano was, among men who prepared for everything, singular in his training habits.... So he asks his trainer and his trainer says "You stay the heck away from his left hook. When you need distance, throw a jab. When you have to go in, make sure he is off balance, or throw from his right side."

im struggling to think how Tua, who was a sort of one gear guy, adjusts to that strategy. Even the guys Tua beat, with the notable exception of Moorer, were not guys who were particularly smart fighters...

I could understand if we compared later Razor Ruddock who became a left handed fighter (I think it was his left... it was one hand), and said "this might present some problems. Razor was active later in fights, did have reach (usable power), and could be smart....

I think Tua could handle Rocky's power and would force hm into a toe to toe war. If he can take Ibaebuchi and Lewis' best punches he can take Rocky's. Rocky was knocked down by an old LHW Moore, got busted up by LHW Charles. I think Tua's size and power would match up against Rocky's stamina and limited footwork. Rocky was prone to getting into trade wars in the middle of the ring, that's not where you want to be with Tua. If you are going to be the smaller fighter you need the skill-set of Chris Byrd who defeated Tua with speed and footwork. Rocky could certainly last the 12 rounds, but if it's a close fight I see Rocky hitting the canvas a time or two and giving up those two-point rounds to Tua, which could be the difference in the fight.

I agree about the power....Tua would seem to be able to handle it, however it is important to remember that Rocky was an attrition guy...

Something else to consider is that the power of Marciano's punches did not diminish and carried into the last stages of a fight. Most other fighters may start out punching very hard but their power diminishes as the fight progresses. Rocky's unrelenting punching power coupled with his stamina is what won him his fights. His first fight with Jersey Joe Walcott clearly demonstrates this.

the only way to beat rocky would be speed and skills, tua is tough and really strong but also slow and one handed. the guys that knocked rocky down were smaller and faster than him, and the ones that were able to bust up his face were highly skilled boxers with great long straight punches. a fight with tua will be all on the inside where rocky had great head movement and defence. I think tua can hurt rocky's body with his power shots but I think once they trade tua will be afraid of the right hand that caved in Walcott's face. I think the stand and trade parts of this fight would be fun to watch but probably Rocco wins a decision. once they both get in the ring the big gap in skills will be easy to see and tua will be loading up with one punch at a time hoping to land the Hail Mary

[billeau2]

the only way to beat rocky would be speed and skills, tua is tough and really strong but also slow and one handed. the guys that knocked rocky down were smaller and faster than him, and the ones that were able to bust up his face were highly skilled boxers with great long straight punches. a fight with tua will be all on the inside where rocky had great head movement and defence. I think tua can hurt rocky's body with his power shots but I think once they trade tua will be afraid of the right hand that caved in Walcott's face. I think the stand and trade parts of this fight would be fun to watch but probably Rocco wins a decision. once they both get in the ring the big gap in skills will be easy to see and tua will be loading up with one punch at a time hoping to land the Hail Mary

Look and one will see that even fighters who were disparaged as being crude, fighters like Tony Galento, had skills compared to today's fighters... Galento was considered a hooker, but his jab, for example, was very good, and he could fight insided well. A fighter like Tua, back in those days would not go far because he truly is a one handed fighter and at the top level, a guy would be able to avoid one type of punch.

[Anthony342]

Look and one will see that even fighters who were disparaged as being crude, fighters like Tony Galento, had skills compared to today's fighters... Galento was considered a hooker, but his jab, for example, was very good, and he could fight insided well. A fighter like Tua, back in those days would not go far because he truly is a one handed fighter and at the top level, a guy would be able to avoid one type of punch.

Galento was a hooker? Gotta get by somehow. Wonder how much he charged.