RJJ vs Ezzard Charles LHW Title who wins?

[robjr]

heavyweights were alot smaller then.. Roy would of fit in nicley and his speed would just make them look BAD

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1. Jones is unproven at 175. It's probably not even his best weight (that would be 168).

Charles never got a shot at the 175 title. However..
1941-1948 Gus Lesnevich is the champ. Charles is 1-0 against him.
In 1950 Joey Maxim becomes champ (until 1952). Charles is 5-0 against him
In 1952 Archie Moore becomes champion (until 1962). Charles is 3-0 against him.
In other words... a ruler of kings.

I am a Jones fan, but I did my homework a while ago.

[johnee5]

Didn't Charles kill a fighter @ LH??

At that weight he had speed AND power. He also owned Charley Burley whom no one was looking to fight then.

Charles by a mid round TKO. It would take him a few rounds to slow RJJ down with his body work and ring generalship.

Charles also ko's a prime Archie Moore.

[cuzfozzy]

out of all dem so called legends of today
roy jones is probably the only one who woulda stood a chance
back in the day dem was real fighters
dey fought all the time

[MissDeeCole]

charles. dem was real fighters back then
charles would never lost to milk baby tarver

give me a break

[StarshipTrooper]

I have to take Charles. Jones was at his best at Super-Middlweight while Charles is regarded by many boxing experts as the greatest Light-Heavyweight ever. He beat the great Archie Moore six out of six times: No mean feat considering how great a Light-Heavy Moore was. I've heard a number of people cite a power deficit for Charles, but that was after Ezzard moved up to Heavyweight AND after he killed Sam Barodi in the ring: He was so effected mentally by Barodi's death that he started holding back on his power. As a Light-Heavyweight it was said he could knock your brains out with either hand.

This isn't to knock Jones. His speed, reflexes, and power give him good chances in any fight. It's a hard call really, but I think Charles was sufficiently superior at Light-Heavyweight for him to be my pick; but it's not a lock solid pick as on any given night Jones' talents could carry him to victory.

Poet

[Sweet Pete]

Please be clear bout this. Do you pick Jones to beat Charles?

I had respect for you before that bit about "ignore list material" for anyone who chooses Jones.

Charles is the #1 LHW of all time in my opinion, and #6 rated P4P boxer, but in a head to head matchup at 175, I think it's a very good possibility that Jones beats him, but that Charles also has a shot at beating Jones.

I was responding to cuzfozzy like that because he's an idiot and always makes ******ed posts, but yes, I for sure believe Jones has a good chance at beating Charles. To say a prime Roy Jones has no chance beating a fighter his size is ignorance.

[Sweet Pete]

1. Jones is unproven at 175. It's probably not even his best weight (that would be 168).

Charles never got a shot at the 175 title. However..
1941-1948 Gus Lesnevich is the champ. Charles is 1-0 against him.
In 1950 Joey Maxim becomes champ (until 1952). Charles is 5-0 against him
In 1952 Archie Moore becomes champion (until 1962). Charles is 3-0 against him.
In other words... a ruler of kings.

I am a Jones fan, but I did my homework a while ago.

Unproven? LOL, aside from DM he literally cleaned out the division, including a 4th round body shot KO over Virgil Hill. 168 may have been a slightly better division for him, but only because he was facing smaller fighters, not because he was less skilled or physically gifted.

We saw how Jones did against other great fighters, this is a head to head matchup, not an analysis of their entire careers and who was greater. On an ATG list Charles ranks quite a bit higher, but head to head Jones in my opinion ranks higher(at least P4P) and could very well beat Charles at 175.

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I had respect for you before that bit about "ignore list material" for anyone who chooses Jones.

Charles is the #1 LHW of all time in my opinion, and #6 rated P4P boxer, but in a head to head matchup at 175, I think it's a very good possibility that Jones beats him, but that Charles also has a shot at beating Jones.

I was responding to cuzfozzy like that because he's an idiot and always makes ******ed posts, but yes, I for sure believe Jones has a good chance at beating Charles. To say a prime Roy Jones has no chance beating a fighter his size is ignorance.

The 25 losses comment is enough to guarantee Hank Kaplan a place on my ignore list.

[wmute]

To say a prime Roy Jones has no chance beating a fighter his size is ignorance.

I agree with this statement, thing is Charles is bigger than Jones. he was fighting regularly above 190 without weight training.