Mike Tyson vs Rocky Marciano

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

So I guess Bruce Lee couldn't have generated much power right? I mean he was ONLY 145 pounds.

OK man, you got me there.LOL That guy could take 50 guys down one right after another. Good thing Ali never fought him.LOL

[Hawkins]

Marciano was never in a war with another brawler with a lot of power was he? I don't know his career as well as you guys, but what I do know is guys like Moore and Walcot were no Tysons. I know you have to see proof Hawkins but just because guys like Tyson and Jones were not ever tested in their primes doesn't mean we should dismiss them for it. I think most greats were never really tested anyway besides Ali. When was Johnson, Marciano, Dempsey, and Louis really tested. None of them had ever fought anyone the caliber of Tyson, but they were great? Tell me! Tell me now!!!!

Well Marciano was in lots of fights one could classify as wars. Louis as well was in a few grueling fights of his own. But the difference is none of these were upset in the prime of their career nor were they soundly beaten by fighters they were supposed to defeat (unless you count Schelling for Jpe but he avenged that in devestating fashion).

But the entire point was never absorbed massive amounts of punishment so the wear and tear on his body was minimal by the time Evander fought him.

[Jim Jeffries]

You seriously have no clue.LOL

I guess Sam Langford who had 130 KOs (quite a few against heavyweights) and held his own with Jack Johnson when he weighed 156 pounds couldn't possible have had any power.

[QuCongee]

Holyfield was 208 when he KOd a 246 lb Buster Douglas that had KOd Tyson IN HIS PRIME 8 months earlier. Weight doesn't mean that much.

It's different when you get below a certain weight though. I think Marciano was 180ish. Against Tyson? No way. He'd get punched across the goddamn ring. Sorry.

[Jim Jeffries]

OK man, you got me there.LOL That guy could take 50 guys down one right after another. Good thing Ali never fought him.LOL

In a street fight you're damn right.

[Hawkins]

I guess Sam Langford who had 130 KOs (quite a few against heavyweights) and held his own with Jack Johnson when he weighed 156 pounds couldn't possible have had any power.

You're right. There have been a few lower weight guys who could effectively lower the boom on a heavyweight. Stanley Ketchel and Sam Langford are two of the more well known ones.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's different when you get below a certain weight though. I think Marciano was 180ish. Against Tyson? No way. He'd get punched across the goddamn ring. Sorry.

Rocky fought as heavy as 192 in his prime, and would have fought a lot heavier with today's training and diet, it's not inconceivable that he could fight as high as 210-215. Tyson weighed 215 at his best, like against Holmes.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Well Marciano was in lots of fights one could classify as wars. Louis as well was in a few grueling fights of his own. But the difference is none of these were upset in the prime of their career nor were they soundly beaten by fighters they were supposed to defeat (unless you count Schelling for Jpe but he avenged that in devestating fashion).

But the entire point was never absorbed massive amounts of punishment so the wear and tear on his body was minimal by the time Evander fought him.

OK I give up, Tysons fights with Douglas and Holyfield were while he was in his prime and the mental aspect of the sport is just a figment of my imagination.LOL

[Hawkins]

Rocky fought as heavy as 192 in his prime, and would have fought a lot heavier with today's training and diet, it's not inconceivable that he could fight as high as 210-215. Tyson weighed 215 at his best, like against Holmes.

I find its usually fruitless to bring up when you do these matchups from different eras you have to level the playing field. No one listens tho'.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

I guess Sam Langford who had 130 KOs (quite a few against heavyweights) and held his own with Jack Johnson when he weighed 156 pounds couldn't possible have had any power.

Not at all.