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  • QueensburyRules
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    #11
    Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
    How when Whitaker fought/dominated Chavez after the first Taylor fight? Make it make sense lol
    - -Pea fought Sr many years later well after Sr was 2-0, 2KO vs Taylor.

    It was clear Sr on a slide in a new Div he never looked good in, but in his prime years he was 2-0, 2 KO vs Roger Mayweather who near KOed Pea when they fought.

    Also dominated the scoring vs Ramirez after he had sent Pea scrambling and turning his back in the latter half of their first fight. Pea is DQed or TKOed in 95% of contested bouts with that scenerio, so it was Ramirez getting robbed and besmirched by typical besotted American nationalism of that era.

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      #12
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules
      - -Pea fought Sr many years later well after Sr was 2-0, 2KO vs Taylor.

      It was clear Sr on a slide in a new Div he never looked good in, but in his prime years he was 2-0, 2 KO vs Roger Mayweather who near KOed Pea when they fought.

      Also dominated the scoring vs Ramirez after he had sent Pea scrambling and turning his back in the latter half of their first fight. Pea is DQed or TKOed in 95% of contested bouts with that scenerio, so it was Ramirez getting robbed and besmirched by typical besotted American nationalism of that era.
      It was more closer to a flash knockdown than a KO lol he bought into the intense build up and left himself vulnerable vs Roger, who even though Sweet Pea was a tad bit green, was not in Whitakers league at all (which the scores showed). In fact, Roger was closer to being KOed than Whitaker.

      I just didn't understand why Whitaker would be scared to fight Chavez in a rematch, after he dominated him years after the first Taylor fight. Talking completely owned. He out fought Chavez on the inside when he needed to for portions of the fight, controlled the outside easily and tattooed him. Why would Pea be scared at any weight?

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        #13
        In fact, if there were any other ref in the world other than Richard Steele, Meldrick would've beaten him as well, but we'll save that for another day.

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          #14
          Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
          In fact, if there were any other ref in the world other than Richard Steele, Meldrick would've beaten him as well, but we'll save that for another day.
          - -Clearly you fail to understand Sr knocked out both Taylor and Roger twice before he faced Pea.

          Today is the other day if you don't understand the cacophonous uproar at the Taylor KD. Nobody could hear themselves think least of all Taylor. Steele, bless him stayed composed and focused on Taylor. Meanwhile fat Lou had run halfway down the ring apron screaming that further distracted poor Taylor.

          Steele had 3 choices, clear TKO, DQ because of Lou, or allow a concussed fighter bleeding out of every orifice barely able to stand to continue.

          Steele loses face no matter the decision, so he made do with the best choice that reflects that Sr BTFO & then KTFO Taylor that ruined him as his career declination shows.

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            #15
            Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
            It was more closer to a flash knockdown than a KO lol he bought into the intense build up and left himself vulnerable vs Roger, who even though Sweet Pea was a tad bit green, was not in Whitakers league at all (which the scores showed). In fact, Roger was closer to being KOed than Whitaker.

            I just didn't understand why Whitaker would be scared to fight Chavez in a rematch, after he dominated him years after the first Taylor fight. Talking completely owned. He out fought Chavez on the inside when he needed to for portions of the fight, controlled the outside easily and tattooed him. Why would Pea be scared at any weight?
            He wouldn't and wasn't scared. He beat the wheels off of Chavez, who I was rooting for at the time. Styles make fights and Pea's style was Chavez kryptonite. It wouldn't have mattered when they fought.

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              #16
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules
              - -Clearly you fail to understand Sr knocked out both Taylor and Roger twice before he faced Pea.

              Today is the other day if you don't understand the cacophonous uproar at the Taylor KD. Nobody could hear themselves think least of all Taylor. Steele, bless him stayed composed and focused on Taylor. Meanwhile fat Lou had run halfway down the ring apron screaming that further distracted poor Taylor.

              Steele had 3 choices, clear TKO, DQ because of Lou, or allow a concussed fighter bleeding out of every orifice barely able to stand to continue.

              Steele loses face no matter the decision, so he made do with the best choice that reflects that Sr BTFO & then KTFO Taylor that ruined him as his career declination shows.
              Chavez knocked Roger out twice, he beat Taylor the first time, and fought Pea in between the rematch with Taylor (look it up). Also, you complained about Chavez not being at his best weight vs Pea, you must've forgot that he went back down to his "prime weight" just a few months after that, only to get smacked around by Frankie Randall. Is this is what Pea should fear? SMH

              What Roger has to do with any of this, is absolutely beyond me. Also, if you agree with a ref stopping a fight within two seconds, even though Chavez wouldn't have even had time to get across to ring to land any more punches, that's your opinion. Its beating a dead horse at this point. We're going way off topic. What does any of this have to do with Whitaker being afraid of Chavez after dominating him? Laughable man.

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                #17
                Originally posted by JAB5239
                He wouldn't and wasn't scared. He beat the wheels off of Chavez, who I was rooting for at the time. Styles make fights and Pea's style was Chavez kryptonite. It wouldn't have mattered when they fought.
                My thoughts exactly!

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                  #18
                  Since we're going off topic, why did the WBC ever have a rule penalizing a fight 1 point for accidental headbutts? That ridiculous rule was the ONLY reason Chavez won back the title vs Randell. Does anyone disagree with this? I'm just curious.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    Since we're going off topic, why did the WBC ever have a rule penalizing a fight 1 point for accidental headbutts? That ridiculous rule was the ONLY reason Chavez won back the title vs Randell. Does anyone disagree with this? I'm just curious.
                    Sounds like some corrupt Don King BS to me and a shady way to get back the title after Chavez was owned by Frankie Randall in the first fight. The scoring in the first fight was a travesty too, as it still took a knockdown and two points taken away for low blows for Randall to still win by ONE point on one of the scorecards to get a split decision win over Chavez. Were judges paid off back then when watching Chavez fights or were they just that dumb, drinking the Chavez Kool-Aid? I mean between that and the Whitaker fight scores, there was some horrid judging of fights in Chavez' favor.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                      My thoughts exactly!
                      Dude, don't bother with Queenie. Dude makes no sense. He's like a movie villain, he can't be reasoned with. It's why the ignore feature exists.

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