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  • Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
    I can’t give credit to Pryor, particularly his tainted win over Arguello and the special water bottle. Not to mention Arguello was not his best at 140, and was past his peak. I don’t see any other wins on Pryor’s resume that convince me of his greatness.

    Tyson during the Cus years was as fierce as they come. Always wonder what could have been for Sanchez. Tragic.
    - -Water Bottle facts-

    Prob schnapps or other traditional boxing ministrations going back hundreds of years.

    No matter, ingestion by stomach as slow as it gets for any drug benefits. Inhalation or injection didn't happen.

    KO of Alexis after approx 1 minute of light sparring as both still in recovery from their ferocious last rd.

    The KO instantaneous caught Alexis by surprise after both had been dawdling, the greatest fight I've ever watched live.

    I always hate when my favs fight, but my favs put up a fight for the ages beyond this one, so it's all good in Valhalla.

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    • Originally posted by Frazier's 15th round View Post
      Seriously, how can people consider him the best of the fab 4? Duran can be considered better on longevity alone, let alone the fact that Duran had some huge wins, and beat peak Leonard pretty easily (despite Duran being 12 pounds above his best weight).

      Hearns outboxed Leonard for 10 of 14 rounds in their first fight. Too bad Tommy took a punch like a spider's web. The first time Leonard tapped him, Hearns was staggering all over the place. Hearns was a far better boxer, and was robbed in the rematch.

      The Hagler decision is still debated today. We know what would have happened if a peak Hagler faced Leonard.
      Hearns was a monster at 147 who beats just about any other welter not named Robinson. I dont see how that Makes SRL overated for finding a way to win. Hearsn chins wasnt even bad at 147 either, it got ruined by Hagler.

      And I would think Peak Hagler vs Peak Leonard would be more of the same if not more so, I get it the weight classes but Leonard was worse off than Hagler when they fought. If prime SRL showed up he would have really came to win.

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      • Originally posted by them_apples View Post
        Hearns was a monster at 147 who beats just about any other welter not named Robinson. I dont see how that Makes SRL overated for finding a way to win. Hearsn chins wasnt even bad at 147 either, it got ruined by Hagler.

        And I would think Peak Hagler vs Peak Leonard would be more of the same if not more so, I get it the weight classes but Leonard was worse off than Hagler when they fought. If prime SRL showed up he would have really came to win.
        - -What, n'er got the Email?

        Prime Leonard threw a splashy banquet for Marv and Aaron to duck them in his prime.

        Was U even born then?

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