Rating old heavyweights?

[Dr. Z]

- -No Ring fighter ratings til 1925.

Beliefs are for religious forums, not boxing.

Not so, they started in 1924

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/T..._Ratings:_1924

[QueensburyRules]

Not so, they started in 1924

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/T..._Ratings:_1924

- -What grade U in now, Doc?

February 1925>
https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/T...Annual_Ratings

[travestyny]

Not so, they started in 1924

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/T..._Ratings:_1924

Nice find! Didn't know the ratings went that far back. Thanks for this!

[GhostofDempsey]

So would people have paid to see Dempsey against a black contender though?

Jack Johnson used the excuse there was no money in fighting black fighters when he drew the color line as champion himself. Once Jeannette, McVea and Langford got some experience and posed a challenge, he lost interest real fast. Made an exception to his rule to fight a lesser black fighter for far less money which ended in a draw.

[travestyny]

Jack Johnson used the excuse there was no money in fighting black fighters when he drew the color line as champion himself. Once Jeannette, McVea and Langford got some experience and posed a challenge, he lost interest real fast. Made an exception to his rule to fight a lesser black fighter for far less money which ended in a draw.

uh uh uhhhhhh. lol. Stop lyingggggg. When he got his price, he was ready to roll.

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[Anthony342]

Wanted to show you the poll that was taken in 1922...and came up on this old tune about Harry Wills Unfortunately the tune is talked over a bit.


But anyway, the people wanted it.

https://soundbeat.org/episode/harry-wills-the-champion/

I will say, this quotation gets it wrong. 2nd place was Tommy Gibbons and he didn't win 6,000 votes. He was 6,000 votes behind Wills.

So sounds like probably yes.

[travestyny]

So sounds like probably yes.

The people wanted it, Wills wanted it, the promoter wanted it, the money was present.

I even have a picture of the certified check that was waiting for Dempsey in accordance with the contract that he broke. lol

My hunch is that Dempsey didn't want to risk losing to a black fighter. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. It's the same reason he refused to fight Joe Jeannette in that exhibition, but stated that he would fight any white man. Even TWO white men. It couldn't get any more obvious than that. He wrote an article himself where he is quoted as saying, "I'll fight any white man they put on, but I didn't agree to fight a colored boy." If that doesn't make it clear, I don't know what will. And the crowd booed him relentlessly, so obviously once again, the people wanted it.

[JAB5239]

Not so, they started in 1924

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/T..._Ratings:_1924

Oops........😄

[QueensburyRules]

The people wanted it, Wills wanted it, the promoter wanted it, the money was present.

I even have a picture of the certified check that was waiting for Dempsey in accordance with the contract that he broke. lol

My hunch is that Dempsey didn't want to risk losing to a black fighter. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. It's the same reason he refused to fight Joe Jeannette in that exhibition, but stated that he would fight any white man. Even TWO white men. It couldn't get any more obvious than that. He wrote an article himself where he is quoted as saying, "I'll fight any white man they put on, but I didn't agree to fight a colored boy." If that doesn't make it clear, I don't know what will. And the crowd booed him relentlessly, so obviously once again, the people wanted it.

- -More copy/pasties. U a pole dancer?

Jeannette paid Dempsey milk fund charity exhibition event to disappear so Joe could replace him. Kearns blew up and yanked Jack.

Crppy fund raiser and Joe retired soon after.

[QueensburyRules]

Nice find! Didn't know the ratings went that far back. Thanks for this!

- -U always nail the "didn't know part like a master of stoopid.

As I corrected, the ratings were published in 1925 that has led to the largest brain shortcircuitry of a forum I've witnessed...priceless