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    #21
    Originally posted by butterfly1964
    He still was not at his peak and was a lot smaller than LaMotta.
    He had 40 unbeaten bouts and beaten Lamotta before, and i don't see a huge amount of diffirence of Robinson many fights after that loss. Sounds pretty peak-ish to me. Fact is, Lamotta worked his ass off to beat him, and deserves all the credit he gets for it. Yes, he was a bigger man(though Ray was taller with a longer reach i believe) than Robinson, but we're talking about Sugar Ray here.

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      • butterfly1964
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        #22
        Originally posted by Yaman
        He had 40 unbeaten bouts and beaten Lamotta before, and i don't see a huge amount of diffirence of Robinson many fights after that loss. Sounds pretty peak-ish to me. Fact is, Lamotta worked his ass off to beat him, and deserves all the credit he gets for it. Yes, he was a bigger man(though Ray was taller with a longer reach i believe) than Robinson, but we're talking about Sugar Ray here.
        Still I don't believe LaMotta deserves all the praise he gets.

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          • brownpimp88
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            #23
            Lamotta is overrated for sure, i cant belive ring magazine ranks him so high. B-hop and james toney would have beat him.

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              • butterfly1964
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                #24
                Originally posted by brownpimp88
                Lamotta is overrated for sure, i cant belive ring magazine ranks him so high. B-hop and james toney would have beat him.
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                  • brownpimp88
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                    #25
                    Originally posted by butterfly1964
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                    He's not going to knock toney out and his style of fighting is so flawed. Toney its time to give him a boxing lesson.

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                      • bill1234
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by brownpimp88
                        Lamotta is overrated for sure, i cant belive ring magazine ranks him so high. B-hop and james toney would have beat him.

                        No, LaMotta is a great fighter. He was the first guy to beat Robinson, and the only guy to knock him down.

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                          • Underboss
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                            #27
                            ^^^^^ exactly. and that was in robinson's primes. he thought LaMotta was one of those little white boys he used to Knock out. the same goes for basilio.

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                              • Southpaw Stinger
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                                #28
                                Originally posted by butterfly1964
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                                whats with the friggin sign language?

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                                  • -Hyperion-
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                                    #29
                                    Originally posted by brownpimp88
                                    Lamotta is overrated for sure, i cant belive ring magazine ranks him so high. B-hop and james toney would have beat him.
                                    totally agree

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                                      • butterfly1964
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                                        #30
                                        Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
                                        whats with the friggin sign language?
                                        It saves time and energy.

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