your best of all time is..

[sonnyboyx2]

1/. Ray Robinson
2/. Muhammad Ali
3/. Manny Pacquiao
4/. Henry Armstrong
5/. Roberto Duran

[sonnyboyx2]

You must've missed The Meldrick Taylor (24-0) fight. JCC pulls a TKO in the final seconds of the 12th round (2x!) Pernil Whitaker (32-1) (Roger Mayweather (, Miguel Angel Gonzalez (42-1) Hector Camacho (40-1) Frankie Randal (42-1) 2X

JUlio Cesar Chavez was the face of WBC light Weight Champ for a loooooooong time.

Ask any non bias boxing expert....who is the greatest Boxer to ever come out of Mexico...

Julio Cesar Chavez.

No i never missed any of those fights... Chavez was way behind on the scorecards againt Taylor when he got the TKO ... Pernel Whitaker schooled Chavez and was robbed of the decision.. Frankie Randall beat Chavez

[JAB5239]

You must've missed The Meldrick Taylor (24-0) fight. JCC pulls a TKO in the final seconds of the 12th round (2x!) Pernil Whitaker (32-1) (Roger Mayweather (, Miguel Angel Gonzalez (42-1) Hector Camacho (40-1) Frankie Randal (42-1) 2X

JUlio Cesar Chavez was the face of WBC light Weight Champ for a loooooooong time.

Ask any non bias boxing expert....who is the greatest Boxer to ever come out of Mexico...

Julio Cesar Chavez.

When the task of naming the greatest Light Weight ever. JJC and Roberto Duran is on everyone's ballot. no nonsense.

I think you are mistaken here my friend. Chavez best days were at 130 followed by 140. He only had one significant fight at 135 that I can recall, Edwin Rosario.

[geribeetus]

my top 3 are

joe louis
the brown bomber
joseph louis barrow

the rest of the list would start at 6th place, skipping 4 and 5, to illustrate how much better he is than everyone else.

[GJC]

****, i cant remember that guy's name but there is a historian that is 70 years old and he flat out says those guys like gans, etc are NOT GOOD, they suck. he says benny loenard sucks, philly jack o'brien is a bum, etc.

Probably a very good reason why you can’t remember his name

Rocky got dropped by archie moore, now i can see why he was scared of liston.

Was down for 2 seconds against Archie Moore who ko’d over 100 fighters. Not saying Marciano would beat Liston but he wasn’t scared of anyone.
Are you saying he ducked Liston who wasn’t ranked until 3 years after Marciano retired?

So i can say hagler, monzon and b-hop are the best middleweights ever cuz they dominated in thier own era, while others such as greb and walker lost and thier oppoents became famous because they beat greb or walker.

So Greb didn’t dominate his era then?

roy isnt in the top 20, yet p4p they rank him well ahead of loughran, doesnt make sense to me since loughran lost like 50 times.

No Loughran lost half that amount of times and most of those were’nt at Light Heavy. Incidently the only fighter in his weight class who regularily beat him was Greb.

the guys hagler beat were always in the top 5, hamsho crushed a 25 year old benitez, mugabi has beat many good fighters. Graziano is always dubbed as overrated, and yeah turpin did beat robinson.

Benetiz was finished at 25 so forget that win. I’m a big fan of Hagler but you can as easily say he narrowly beat a lightweight and lost to a pumped up welter coming off 1 fight in 5 years. Mugabi has pretty much no record at Middle

tyson's style is more modern, he actually got fundamental training. I'm sure they tought tyson how to use angles and head movement.

That will be news to Floyd Patterson.

[talip bin osman]

bump... its a nice and very informative thread featuring some of the smartest posters on this site...

[Vadrigar.]

I'll have a go at this, from the top of my head.

p4p:

1. SRR
2. Armstrong
3. Ali

Greatest:

1. Ali
2. SRR
3. Armstrong

[Vadrigar.]

I have no knowledge at all in boxing history besides the heavyweights, so I listed only heavies because if I put another fighter in another weight class, I wouldn't be able to back it up

1. Sonny Liston
2. Joe Frazier
3. Jack Johnson
4. Joe Louis
5. Rocky Marciano
6. Muhammad Ali
7. Floyd Patterson
8. Jack Dempsey
9. Evander Holyfield
10. John L. Sullivan

Like your signature, a smart response