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  • #21
    Originally posted by Hot Topic View Post
    Yeah, thats why I became a boxing writer. I needed an outlet for all of the things I wanted to talk about in the sport. Boxing is my ****, it's my drug.

    I think Louis was down many more times than 3 or 4. I think it might have been 10 or something like that.
    I went to Boxrec, and counted 16 times he was knocked down. 7 in his amatuer. I was way off but I wasn't sure at all. Least I know now!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Hot Topic View Post
      Does anybody know how many times Louis had been knocked down in his career?
      Schmeling, Baer, Braddock, Galento, Walcott (2x), Marciano (2x)
      moneytheman Ascended likes this.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Hydro View Post
        Schmeling, Baer, Braddock, Galento, Walcott (2x), Marciano (2x)
        According to Boxrec he had more than that...

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Lubutheimmortal View Post
          According to Boxrec he had more than that...
          For real, homey seemed to go down a whole lot. Thanks alot for the answers my dudes.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Hot Topic View Post
            For real, homey seemed to go down a whole lot. Thanks alot for the answers my dudes.
            No problem, I was curious myself to be honest.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Hot Topic View Post
              The Walcott decision was total bull****. I don't give credit on the merits of inept judging. And about the double thread, mistakes happen and we all got to learn to deal with them.
              I'm talking about the second fight when he knocked Walcott out.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Hot Topic View Post
                Does anybody know how many times Louis had been knocked down in his career?
                Ten times.

                1936

                Max Schmeling 2x - Fourth round and Twelvth round.

                1937

                James Braddock - First round

                1939

                Tony Galento - Third round

                1941

                Buddy Baer - First Round

                1947

                Jersey Joe Walcott 2x - First round and Fourth round

                1948

                Jersey Joe Walcott - Third round

                1951

                Rocky Marciano 2x - Twice in the Eighth round.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
                  Ten times.

                  1936

                  Max Schmeling 2x - Fourth round and Twelvth round.

                  1937

                  James Braddock - First round

                  1939

                  Tony Galento - Third round

                  1941

                  Buddy Baer - First Round

                  1947

                  Jersey Joe Walcott 2x - First round and Fourth round

                  1948

                  Jersey Joe Walcott - Third round

                  1951

                  Rocky Marciano 2x - Twice in the Eighth round.
                  Looks right to me. I tend to rush things (i multi task to much), so I am sure I mis added some of the knocked Louis scored in with the knockdowns against him. Thanks butterfly for more indepth answer (including the rounds, and fighters).

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
                    Actually, Louis' best win was Walcott, not Schmeling.
                    Walcott had a better resume and in my opinion also was a better fighter than Schmeling. Joe's best opponents that he defeated might look something like this.

                    1) Jersey Joe Walcott
                    2) Max Baer
                    3) Max Schmeling
                    4) Billy Conn
                    5) Jim Braddock
                    6) Tommy Farr
                    7) Buddy Baer
                    8) Tony Galento
                    9) John Henry Lewis
                    10) Abe Simon

                    I've read that Louis considered his 1935 win over Max Baer to be his best ever performance. Interestingly, Baer climbed back in the ratings to #1 challenger in 1940 based on his strong showings against Tony Galento and Pat Comiskey. While Baer was rated #1 Louis granted title fights to Al McCoy, Gus Dorazio and Tony Musto who were not ranked in the top 10 at the time.

                    LOUIS LOOKS AHEAD TO SEPTEMBER BOUT; Elated by Victory Over Godoy, Champion Plans to Oppose Max Baer or Galento COLLECTS $55,989 CHECK Earnings Soar to $1,704,341 --Beaten Rival's Share of Stadium Purse $23,620


                    His thudding fists having pounded Arturo Godoy into submission through eight blazing rounds at the Yankee Stadium on Thursday night, Joe Louis, elated at his success in this latest defense of the world heavyweight championship, yesterday looked forward to the twelfth challenge for his crown.
                    -The New York Times June 22, 1940


                    BAER CARRIED OUT PRE-BATTLE PLANS; Kept Up Body Attack, Forcing Galento to Uncover Chin --Loser's Hand Hurt

                    Jubilant over his victory, Max Baer declared tonight that he now wants another chance at Joe Louis for the heavyweight title. This was almost the first thing he said when he got back to his dressing room, where he was almost smothered by the crowd that followed him in.
                    -The New York Times July 3, 1940


                    Louis-Baer World Title Contest Looms for Chicago in September; Promoter Jacobs and Max's Manager Discuss Plans, With Decision Due in Several Days --X-Rays Show Galento's Hand Broken
                    -The New York Times Thursday July 4, 1940,


                    Strangely and unfortunately, Louis promoter Mike Jacobs decided not make the fight as he deemed there was not sufficient interest in a Louis-Baer rematch. I guess there was more interest in watching Louis defend against guys like McCoy, Dorazio and Musto that weren't ranked.

                    Jacobs instead proposed that Louis face the winner of a fight between Bob Pastor (who Louis had already defeated twice) and light-heavyweight champion Billy Conn.
                    Last edited by SABBATH; 12-21-2006, 06:02 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by SABBATH View Post
                      Walcott had a better resume and in my opinion also was a better fighter than Schmeling. Joe's best opponents that he defeated might look something like this.

                      1) Jersey Joe Walcott
                      2) Max Baer
                      3) Max Schmeling
                      4) Billy Conn
                      5) Jim Braddock
                      6) Tommy Farr
                      7) Buddy Baer
                      8) Tony Galento
                      9) John Henry Lewis
                      10) Abe Simon
                      I don't know about putting lewis in there, as he was legally blind at the time, so I heard. Also Jack Sharkey should be on that list. He was a pretty good fighter, who did give Louis some trouble when they fought.

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