Joe Louis, greatest heavyweight of all time?

[SABBATH]

I don't know about putting lewis in there, as he was legally blind at the time, so I heard. Also Jack Sharkey should be on that list. He was a pretty good fighter, who did give Louis some trouble when they fought.

Sharkey was old, washed up and got blasted out but you're right about Lewis, he was legally blind and lost his licence after the fight. He had good credentials though mainly at light-heavy. He shouldn't have been in the ring against Louis due to his eye condition. The list was off the top of my head so maybe Bob Pastor or Arturo Godoy should be ther instead.

[Yogi]

Jersey Joe Walcott may have been a slightly better fighter than Max Schmeling (any difference is quite minimal, in my opinion), but when things like quality of opposition, significance, performance, etc., are all factored into the equation, then the rematch with Schmeling becomes undoubtably Louis' "best" win of his career.

[Yogi]

The list was off the top of my head so maybe Bob Pastor or Arturo Godoy should be ther instead.

...or possibly Lou Nova, who's another borderline guy that might fill out the top ten in such a category.

[butterfly1964]

Sharkey was old, washed up and got blasted out but you're right about Lewis, he was legally blind and lost his licence after the fight. He had good credentials though mainly at light-heavy. He shouldn't have been in the ring against Louis due to his eye condition. The list was off the top of my head so maybe Bob Pastor or Arturo Godoy should be ther instead.

I know he was in his mid thirties. But he was still better than Guys like Abe Simon and Buddy Baer.

[Kid Achilles]

Not neccesarily. What makes you put down Abe Simon and Buddy Baer? Those were decent heavyweights and incredibly strong individuals. Sharkey was a very good fighter, who by most accounts had the potential to be great, in his prime, but when Louis got to him he was finished.

[Mr. Ryan]

Not neccesarily. What makes you put down Abe Simon and Buddy Baer? Those were decent heavyweights and incredibly strong individuals. Sharkey was a very good fighter, who by most accounts had the potential to be great, in his prime, but when Louis got to him he was finished.

5 years earlier, Sharkey would've given Louis all kinds of hell with his jab and right hand. But by that time, Sharkey was just a journeyman and Louis took him as an easy night after the first Schmelling disaster.

[Kid Achilles]

Agreed. Sharkey in his prime was a very good and talented boxer who just wasn't right in the head and was inconsistent as a fighter.

[Mr. Ryan]

Agreed. Sharkey in his prime was a very good and talented boxer who just wasn't right in the head and was inconsistent as a fighter.

Like against Dempsey LOLz, "Hey ref, this mother****er BLAM!!!!!!!!" Which way did he go George?

[Kid Achilles]

Yeah that was just plain crazy of him. Or how he stayed down against Carnera because he saw the ghost of his friend Erinie Schaaf in the ring? I don't think he was making that up either.

[Mr. Ryan]

Yeah that was just plain crazy of him. Or how he stayed down against Carnera because he saw the ghost of his friend Erinie Schaaf in the ring? I don't think he was making that up either.

Of course not, that dude was haunted by killing that man.