First loss was 1996, he was hit in the face. Second loss (1999) was a body shot KO of a weight drained Manny.
As for the pro debut, as far as I know it's impossible to find. Earliest video you'll find is fight #4.
nice, manny is in time magazine, cool
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh284/boojee12/manny-pacquiao_juan-manuel-marquez_.gif
This is how he destroyed Marquez.
nice but i already have that gif, got it from photobucket
Muhammad Ali:
Off - 10/10 Def - 10/10
dude wasn't touched in his prime. As for his offense, he was Ali
Sugar Ray Robinson:
Off - 12/10 Def - 8/10
Dude had devastating strikes for his weight. Just unworldly. Def was good, but wasn't extraordinary to me.
Roy Jones
Off - 10/10 Def - 7.5/10
Great offense..No one could stand before him in his prime. Defense was pretty nonexistant even then, he just relied on beating them to the punch, and his athleticism..so..
Manny
Off - 9/10 Def - 7/10
his last three fights he's been utilizing a sort of Tyson'esque defense. But imo, cotto is the proving ground. If he beats Cotto, def goes way up. Same for offense.
Pretty Boy Floyd
Off - 8/10 Def - 10/10
Offense would be higher if he threw more. Defense is superb
Mike Tyson
off - 10.5/10 Def - 8.5/10
Dude was a wrecking machine. Pretty damn good defense in his prime
Cotto
off - 8.75/10 def - 8/10
Prime Cotto, imo, was before Marg. He was wrecking dudes. Solid boxing skills.
Mosley
off- 9/10 def 7.5/10
good hitter..he can be caught and out boxed
JMM
off 8/10 def 8/10
good..but compared to these guys...
DLH
Off 8.5 Def 8
and im done
you believe
OFFENSE
1.Sugar Ray Robinson: 12
2.Mike Tyson: 10.5
3.Muhammad Ali: 10
3.Roy Jones: 10
4.Manny: 9
4.Mosley: 9
5.Cotto: 8.75
6.DLH: 8.5
7.Pretty Boy Floyd: 8
7.JMM: 8
DEFENSE
1.Muhammad Ali: 10
1.Pretty Boy Floyd: 10
2.Mike Tyson: 8.5
3.Sugar Ray Robinson: 8
3.JMM: 8
3.DLH: 8
3.Cotto: 8
4.Roy Jones: 7.5
4.Mosley: 7.5
5.Manny: 7
added O+D
1.Sugar Ray Robinson: 20
1.Muhammad Ali: 20
3.Mike Tyson: 19
4.Roy Jones: 18
4.Pretty Boy Floyd: 18
5.Cotto: 16.75
6.DLH: 16.5
6.Mosley: 16.5
7.Manny: 16
8.JMM: 16
First loss was 1996, he was hit in the face. Second loss (1999) was a body shot KO of a weight drained Manny.
As for the pro debut, as far as I know it's impossible to find. Earliest video you'll find is fight #4.
this member said he has but it seems he doesnt want to share it
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/member.php?u=129295
much clearer vid:
Muhammad Ali:
Off - 10/10 Def - 10/10
dude wasn't touched in his prime. As for his offense, he was Ali
Sugar Ray Robinson:
Off - 12/10 Def - 8/10
Dude had devastating strikes for his weight. Just unworldly. Def was good, but wasn't extraordinary to me.
Roy Jones
Off - 10/10 Def - 7.5/10
Great offense..No one could stand before him in his prime. Defense was pretty nonexistant even then, he just relied on beating them to the punch, and his athleticism..so..
Manny
Off - 9/10 Def - 7/10
his last three fights he's been utilizing a sort of Tyson'esque defense. But imo, cotto is the proving ground. If he beats Cotto, def goes way up. Same for offense.
Pretty Boy Floyd
Off - 8/10 Def - 10/10
Offense would be higher if he threw more. Defense is superb
Mike Tyson
off - 10.5/10 Def - 8.5/10
Dude was a wrecking machine. Pretty damn good defense in his prime
Cotto
off - 8.75/10 def - 8/10
Prime Cotto, imo, was before Marg. He was wrecking dudes. Solid boxing skills.
Mosley
off- 9/10 def 7.5/10
good hitter..he can be caught and out boxed
JMM
off 8/10 def 8/10
good..but compared to these guys...
DLH
Off 8.5 Def 8
and im done
OFFENSE
1.Sugar Ray Robinson: 12
2.Mike Tyson: 10.5
3.Muhammad Ali: 10
3.Roy Jones: 10
4.Manny: 9
4.Mosley: 9
5.Cotto: 8.75
6.DLH: 8.5
7.Pretty Boy Floyd: 8
7.JMM: 8
DEFENSE
1.Muhammad Ali: 10
1.Pretty Boy Floyd: 10
2.Mike Tyson: 8.5
3.Sugar Ray Robinson: 8
3.JMM: 8
3.DLH: 8
3.Cotto: 8
4.Roy Jones: 7.5
4.Mosley: 7.5
5.Manny: 7
added O and D
1.Sugar Ray Robinson: 20
1.Muhammad Ali: 20
3.Mike Tyson: 19
4.Roy Jones: 18
4.Pretty Boy Floyd: 18
5.Cotto: 16.75
6.DLH: 16.5
6.Mosley: 16.5
7.Manny: 16
8.JMM: 16
Muhammad Ali:
Off - 10/10 Def - 10/10
dude wasn't touched in his prime. As for his offense, he was Ali
Sugar Ray Robinson:
Off - 12/10 Def - 8/10
Dude had devastating strikes for his weight. Just unworldly. Def was good, but wasn't extraordinary to me.
Roy Jones
Off - 10/10 Def - 7.5/10
Great offense..No one could stand before him in his prime. Defense was pretty nonexistant even then, he just relied on beating them to the punch, and his athleticism..so..
Manny
Off - 9/10 Def - 7/10
his last three fights he's been utilizing a sort of Tyson'esque defense. But imo, cotto is the proving ground. If he beats Cotto, def goes way up. Same for offense.
Pretty Boy Floyd
Off - 8/10 Def - 10/10
Offense would be higher if he threw more. Defense is superb
Mike Tyson
off - 10.5/10 Def - 8.5/10
Dude was a wrecking machine. Pretty damn good defense in his prime
Cotto
off - 8.75/10 def - 8/10
Prime Cotto, imo, was before Marg. He was wrecking dudes. Solid boxing skills.
Mosley
off- 9/10 def 7.5/10
good hitter..he can be caught and out boxed
JMM
off 8/10 def 8/10
good..but compared to these guys...
DLH
Off 8.5 Def 8
and im done
your ratings
OFFENSE
1.Sugar Ray Robinson: 12
2.Mike Tyson: 10.5
3.Muhammad Ali: 10
3.Roy Jones: 10
4.Manny: 9
4.Mosley: 9
5.Cotto: 8.75
6.DLH: 8.5
7.Pretty Boy Floyd: 8
7.JMM: 8
DEFENSE
1.Muhammad Ali: 10
1.Pretty Boy Floyd: 10
2.Mike Tyson: 8.5
3.Sugar Ray Robinson: 8
3.JMM: 8
3.DLH: 8
3.Cotto: 8
4.Roy Jones: 7.5
4.Mosley: 7.5
5.Manny: 7
added O and D
1.Sugar Ray Robinson: 20
1.Muhammad Ali: 20
3.Mike Tyson: 19
4.Roy Jones: 18
4.Pretty Boy Floyd: 18
5.Cotto: 16.75
6.DLH: 16.5
6.Mosley: 16.5
7.Manny: 16
8.JMM: 16
Muhammad Ali:
Off - 10/10 Def - 10/10
dude wasn't touched in his prime. As for his offense, he was Ali
Sugar Ray Robinson:
Off - 12/10 Def - 8/10
Dude had devastating strikes for his weight. Just unworldly. Def was good, but wasn't extraordinary to me.
Roy Jones
Off - 10/10 Def - 7.5/10
Great offense..No one could stand before him in his prime. Defense was pretty nonexistant even then, he just relied on beating them to the punch, and his athleticism..so..
Manny
Off - 9/10 Def - 7/10
his last three fights he's been utilizing a sort of Tyson'esque defense. But imo, cotto is the proving ground. If he beats Cotto, def goes way up. Same for offense.
Pretty Boy Floyd
Off - 8/10 Def - 10/10
Offense would be higher if he threw more. Defense is superb
Mike Tyson
off - 10.5/10 Def - 8.5/10
Dude was a wrecking machine. Pretty damn good defense in his prime
Cotto
off - 8.75/10 def - 8/10
Prime Cotto, imo, was before Marg. He was wrecking dudes. Solid boxing skills.
Mosley
off- 9/10 def 7.5/10
good hitter..he can be caught and out boxed
JMM
off 8/10 def 8/10
good..but compared to these guys...
DLH
Off 8.5 Def 8
and im done
your ratings for them
OFFENSE
1.Sugar Ray Robinson: 12
2.Mike Tyson: 10.5
3.Muhammad Ali: 10
3.Roy Jones: 10
4.Manny: 9
4.Mosley: 9
5.Cotto: 8.75
6.DLH: 8.5
7.Pretty Boy Floyd: 8
7.JMM: 8
DEFENSE
1.Muhammad Ali: 10
1.Pretty Boy Floyd: 10
2.Mike Tyson: 8.5
3.Sugar Ray Robinson: 8
3.JMM: 8
3.DLH: 8
3.Cotto: 8
4.Roy Jones: 7.5
4.Mosley: 7.5
5.Manny: 7
added O and D
1.Sugar Ray Robinson: 20
1.Muhammad Ali: 20
3.Mike Tyson: 19
4.Roy Jones: 18
4.Pretty Boy Floyd: 18
5.Cotto: 16.75
6.DLH: 16.5
6.Mosley: 16.5
7.Manny: 16
8.JMM: 16
W'sup Vince. Yeah, good shit, and good for boxing, too. Although it's the Asia edition he's in it's an impressive accomplishment.
yeah. im a die hard pac fan. cant wait too see the fight on 14. best of luck to our idol
Muhammad Ali:
Off - 10/10 Def - 10/10
dude wasn't touched in his prime. As for his offense, he was Ali
Sugar Ray Robinson:
Off - 12/10 Def - 8/10
Dude had devastating strikes for his weight. Just unworldly. Def was good, but wasn't extraordinary to me.
Roy Jones
Off - 10/10 Def - 7.5/10
Great offense..No one could stand before him in his prime. Defense was pretty nonexistant even then, he just relied on beating them to the punch, and his athleticism..so..
Manny
Off - 9/10 Def - 7/10
his last three fights he's been utilizing a sort of Tyson'esque defense. But imo, cotto is the proving ground. If he beats Cotto, def goes way up. Same for offense.
Pretty Boy Floyd
Off - 8/10 Def - 10/10
Offense would be higher if he threw more. Defense is superb
Mike Tyson
off - 10.5/10 Def - 8.5/10
Dude was a wrecking machine. Pretty damn good defense in his prime
Cotto
off - 8.75/10 def - 8/10
Prime Cotto, imo, was before Marg. He was wrecking dudes. Solid boxing skills.
Mosley
off- 9/10 def 7.5/10
good hitter..he can be caught and out boxed
JMM
off 8/10 def 8/10
good..but compared to these guys...
DLH
Off 8.5 Def 8
and im done
your ratings
OFFENSE
1.Sugar Ray Robinson: 12
2.Mike Tyson: 10.5
3.Muhammad Ali: 10
3.Roy Jones: 10
4.Manny: 9
4.Mosley: 9
5.Cotto: 8.75
6.DLH: 8.5
7.Pretty Boy Floyd: 8
7.JMM: 8
DEFENSE
1.Muhammad Ali: 10
1.Pretty Boy Floyd: 10
2.Mike Tyson: 8.5
3.Sugar Ray Robinson: 8
3.JMM: 8
3.DLH: 8
3.Cotto: 8
4.Roy Jones: 7.5
4.Mosley: 7.5
5.Manny: 7
added O and D
1.Sugar Ray Robinson: 20
1.Muhammad Ali: 20
3.Mike Tyson: 19
4.Roy Jones: 18
4.Pretty Boy Floyd: 18
5.Cotto: 16.75
6.DLH: 16.5
6.Mosley: 16.5
7.Manny: 16
8.JMM: 16