Looks like no one agrees. Everyone has the "JT was robbed" ideology.
Not everyone. The fight was way too close to be called a 'robbery'...more like a close one that could have gone either way. Toney got hit more than he ever does, and regardless of what he said in the post fight interview, he FELT those shots too. Nobody can take a right hand from Peter and NOT feel it, he just hits too damn hard. I was disappointed in Peter for coming in so heavy and for not spending the entire first 3 rd's of the fight working Toney's body. He should have limited himself to throwing punches only to the body (for atleast 2-3 rd's), then go for the head! The results may have been much different. Peter's lack of experience showed, especially when compared to the extent of Toneys. He really REALLY needs to work on technique and defense so he can get somewhere in the division (lol, in my opinion anyway :D ) He's got a decent chin and a ko punch...the rest can be learned.
Pac was never shown the contract for the gloves, fucking MURAD signed it without telling Pac
The only one to blame for that is Pac, sadly enough. He is the one putting his health on the line, so he should make damn sure he knows whats on the contracts! Hell, they're all about him anyway, he should know their contents better than anyone! It doesnt matter though, he admitted that the gloves had nothing to do with it, and then when Larry saw another "way out" and mentioned the eye, he agreed with him and said that he couldnt see.
yeah im just waiting for the first couple of threads to exploit that excuse
Well, right after the fight, he claimed that he couldnt see out of the messed up eye. Damn, even though it may be true ?? I had hoped that whoever lost would man up and say that the other was just better, if only for that fight..naive, huh? :o
These pics say it all:
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Hell of a fight! that one and the Morales-Pac could have been the only one's on the card and it still would have been worth the $45!!
20 hours and 11 minutes left
Ahhhh, the countdown! Just like the rest of you, I can hardly wait! Cant remember the last time I was this pumped up over a fight! :eek:
oh come on, the blood will get in your eyes, how couldn't you believe it? have you been in that before (having some part of your body that was bloodied?) that would lose some confidence in you thinking that you are wounded. and that cut was because of an accidental head butt.
Sigh..what I meant by my post was that regardless of the cut, it would have been nice if just once the guy that lost would be able to admit that for that night, if ONLY for that night, he just wasnt the better fighter..and then I called myself niave for wishing something like that.
and, for what it's worth, I'm one of these that couldnt help noticing that the headbutt happened to the center of his forhead, not the side. But, immediately following the headbutt, Erik landed flush on the side of his eye.
And , to make matters that much worse, I dont go for the "gloves" theory..and Pac admitting in the post fight interview that the gloves had NOTHING to do with him losing doesnt help with my opinion either. He cant have it both ways..he said in palin English that the gloves had nothing to do with him losing (matter of fact, that's when he started with the 'eye' business) and I believed him. Im not going to change my mind now just cause it's convenient.
Erik outboxed him..Manny thought he could ko Erik..Erik was the more skilled of the two, etc..A combination of factors is the cause for Manny losing. Considering that I have given Manny props for the fight he put up louder than anyone else here, you'd think you could have looked past my one post where I questioned his abilities to continue with the fight while having a cut above him eye.
it was
they clash heads
but pac takes eriks head in between the eye brows
then he followed up with a left hook that causes the cut way in the back
the headbutt didnt cause it
besides erik had already set the pace with those jabs for a cut to occur
Thats exactly what I thought too..the headbutt happened to the center of his forehead, and then Erik punched him immediately after that on the left! :confused: I'll watch it again..maybe thats what the ref. thought too, and the reason he said the cut was caused by a punch??
lol ah man trace, if you were filipino, you'd feel the heat :o It's the day of wreckoning, no more talk, taunts, everything is decided in 10 hours.
Well, for just an American, I'd say I'm pretty damn excited!!! Gonna be great! :D
Clear decisive win? In THIS fight? There is NO WAY that there will be a definitive winner tonight, the fight's going all 12 rounds, PacMan will control the pace, but the fight will be declared a DRAW!!!!
I'm very glad that I'm not going in to watch this fight with my mind made up that somebody will get screwed, or that it will end in an unwarranted draw. That mind-set would probably ruin the whole damn thing for me. I think that one or the other will win by tko or ko.
I'm losing the avater.
The drunk old man was an ass tonight.
lol, I've said many times that he's an ass EVERY fight night!! Glad others are finally seeing it too. He's a rude pig, in my opinion!
Erik didnt 'trick' anybody..didnt the managers/promoters take care of all that anyway?? :confused:
Due to the manner of the first fight(with MAB) i cant see any way that PAC will lose to him.
On to JMM -i cant see any way that Pac can WIN that fight.......
Actually I agree with this. I think Pac will always be too much for MAB, but I guess we'll see if ever they fight again. JMM is a different story though; I can easily see him outboxing Pac once again, and possibly avoid any knockdowns. He avoided them the remainder of the fight..I have to think he learned something from that.
ou must be punch drunk like that guy on your avatar. If anything the judges gave Manny a lot of close rounds. I had Manny winning a close first round and the 9th and 12th and that is it.
I managed to give manny rounds: 1,6,9,10 & 12..but Erik did more, and looked fantastic during that fight. Going southpaw for the 12th was crazy of him, but I think he did that to rile up the fans (and it worked)..I dont think there's any question that Erik won. I have to wonder if he made this thread as outrageous as it is knowing many would reply and he'd make a hell of alot of pt's for it. I cant imagine anyone scoring it for Manny..not anybody that knows how to score anyway!!! :eek:
exactyl how it happend
watch it over and over
me and my dad were yellen
lmao
he was sayin he thought pac would win but wanted erik to win
i was like BS
ur just as fake as MAB
every erik fight hes like his wars will catch up to him
hes to old now
blaahhh blahh blahh
hes a MAB nuthugger btw
I will be watching it again...I'll tell ya what I think when I'm done! ;)
Th left hand landed on the cheek, gash was in his eye brow. When they clashed heads they didn't just bump, they scraped.
Ouch..that had to hurt! :confused:
It is very hard to win a decision against a bob arum fighter in las vegas, usually you need a knockout. I had pacquiao winning the fight 115 to 113 or 116 to 112. I had him winning early and winning late. He brought the fight to morales big time and showed effective aggressiveness throwing and landing many more power punches. I also think he hurt morales more though when pacquiao gets hit it looks overly dramatic cuz he jumps.
You cant be serious! Only an extremely biased fan of Pac's would find a way to give the decision to him! I've read alot of things by pac fans at this site since Erik beat him, but not one of them thought Pac won. Youre definately the first. Hate that, cause your so wrong!
pac should fight gatti, i know the weight difference would be huge but that would be so entertaining. it would be a war if pac could stand up to gatti power
lol, yeah, that would be something else!! :eek: :D too bad with the weight difference, they'll never meet in the ring :(
Pac should go for the rematch against Morales...
You really think so borikua???? No warm up, or confidence builder of any kind first? I think even Pac knows he lost that one fair and square, so a little "boost" wouldnt be a bad idea, I dont think anyway :confused:
Heh...how suiting is it that Jose does this too. Ah, if only Tracy were here to enjoy this glorious day. I'm almost positive that I was one of the original "chicken gays"
Tracy's here sport, I just promised NOT to rub noses in the shit, know what I mean?? :D Gotta keep my word man. (I have to admit, there would be a small amount of sweetness in being able to say told ya so!!!) :(
I'd be scared of PBF too. IF that guy will shoot his baby's momma in the chest, what they hell is he going to do to someone he doesn't like.
OUCH!!
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I was also at the fight, and the crowd was crazy... Basically it seemed like the entire card was set up so the Mexican fighters would win leading up to the Main Event- so by the time it rolled around people were going ballistic!
So you went too huh? Thats alright..I've got enough hate for two! :D
sneaked one right there did ya? yeah short trip... and I'm pretty sure I'd see you at the end of that trip. :cool2:
lol, I'm sure you passed me on that oh so sort road! :D
Man u must of got your salad tossed to much already. Your right about one thing "Poor Boy" he got his ass kicked again. WHo are the shitty ones?
Exactly! This thread was in good fun, and for the most part the pinoys have a good sense of humor and joked along with it..too bad some had to take it so damn personal and turn the whole thing dirty! :confused: A real shame, but also gives insight on who you can and cannot joke with in the future. ;)
Erik "The Filipino Fukerupper" Morales
lil better aliteration
a new 'classic' funky! Niiiiccccceeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!! :D
(no more multiple posts guys..promise! :o )
lol
def
well as i told mooks
we wont be letting this fight die anytime soon
boxingscene
is gonna turn into el terrible land
Understandable..and it would be the same way if Pac had won..just Pacland instead ;) I already posted that since all the prefight talking and debating had gone on for so long that it became a dead horse, it's only right that the post fight debating become one too! :D
right on his left eyebrow. 15 stitches.
Okay, I may pop the tape back in and watch that part again just so I can see it too, cause I had that all wrong! :confused:
may GOD have mercy on his soul, i wouldnt want to be on the other side of the ring against manny coming off the fight with erik
Oh GOD, I agree...can anybody say "chop liver"?? Poor fella's gonna pay hell when Pac get's ahold of him!!! :eek: Great thread boys, laughed my ass off, and it's nice to see that most of the pinoys can take a joke (last back to back post, I promise :o )