Do you believe PAC did his best against Floyd?
irrelevant....
oh my, it was your idea to discuss this issue ala mock trial, no?
and you can't keep up with it....
might as well we forget it...
so you and slip could go on your queer ways....
Floyd should have never got an ex post facto TUE.
Never! Never never! Wrong! I don't care about the contracts etc. no TUE.
No TUE
so are you contradicting your post before this?
No hun, all I'm saying is that the "ladies" that have been protesting so much have been focusing on ivs, that's all when it's obvious that isn't the real issue. It seems to me that the ivs are an easy explanation for May 2nd. Yes May 2nd was a clinic, Pac didn't know what to do with a fighter that actually moves instead of the more "fan friendly" posture which is to stand there and admire shots to the head.
Manny was easy pickings.....
what's wrong on focusing on ivs when the topic is about the iv scandal?
the iv is not the real issue? ha ha ha ha
i think you have to visit the iv clinic at floyd's home.....will do you good..
it will show you who the crying lady is....
but if you are not up to it...just look back at yourself in the mirror...
you may find you need about 750ml of iv ooooops sorry, mascara to change your face..
Provide proof of the flip flopping?
ha ha ha...nsac first farted..."unacceptable"....
and you know what follows? "no investigation needed" "floyd is clean" or something to that effect...
and i asked you first;
"Never heard of an ex post facto TUE, but this may mean nothing (why nothing?).
so?
I don't need to answer your questions because I told you didn't even contextualize the initial posts correctly. Lol. And you don't even have an opinion on Koncz as I have plenty of times in this thread.
Yeah it shows my position in this thread over yours.
well, keep on dodging and weaving...
koncz! ha ha ha...on iv gate?
need i say more?
just out of curiousity, iwas wondering if anyone saw those videos of Floyd's USADA random drug tests yet? We're in February and it's getting a little troubling that no one seems to really care.
think this has to be back in the sticky....
also put the one on the disputed videos by spoon, too...
Lol @ yusaf mack. I'm not black or gay so...
one interesting thing tho, filipino males statistically have a very high rate of homosexuality. Just look at all the lady boys in the philipines. I don't know if it's genetics or low testosterone levels or what, but god is cruel nonetheless. As if making them physically inferior wasn't enough.
considerthis, have you consider what's the rating of the country you are from as far as homosexuals is concerned? from where are you?
LMAO!!! Only the scull got bigger. His brain size actually decreased!! Doctors will have to devise a way to build a giant pumpkin head support apparatus. Jinkee will be there to wipe his ass as long as her Mahal has the Money.
oh my......a relapse....
More green I can't give you.
The sounds of flushing...
Hahahaha.
I have influenced you. Can I claim that???
Enjoying your work.
My challenge to you. Listen to book ends, Simon & Garfunkle.
I wrote mine, but want to read yours!!!
Keep it coming!!!!
LMAO!!!!
:boxing:
alleyesopen got a very valid observation...
posts nearly 5,250 but views is almost 102k...and we have 58 votes
the song hits like a sledgehammer dead on the spot...
you can claim you influenced me as i can claim i influenced you...
cheers!
To laugh at you losers, and keep you company.
you might as well answer the relevant questions asked regarding the iv issue....
what kind of company can you provide if you can not give straight forward answers to simple questions?
and....to laugh at losers? ha ha ha
Look what you've been reduced to "there was no boxing clinic May 2." That's the extent of your rebuttal after this "scandal" has been fully, completely, and unequivocally broken into the media? Again, there's no reason for me or Floyd to cry, he won and I won when I collected my duckets from the idiots willing to bet against him...
so are you now saying the iv scandal is decided by who won?
and you take floyd's may 2 performance a boxing clinic?
ali vs foreman was a boxing clinic...rigo vs nonito was a boxing clinic...
pac vs dlh was a boxing clinic...
floyd in his early fights did give boxing clinic..but those were long ago..
How do we proceed???
Let's lay down the rules.
i already said first rule is to keep on topic....
posters should refrain from taking views out of context...
to illustrate...a poster pointed out that i managed to drag floyd into a thread about pac sucking at a ball game...not considering that i did it to illustrate that they drag boxing into a ball game thread...
Divert the issue from what? Devastated Pac fans crying about his failure daily since May 2nd? The people who were crying about Pac's defeat daily before Hauser's article are....get this...the exact same people crying about it daily since. Every relevant organization exonerated Floyd immediately.
"Divert the issue from what?"
are you trying to be blind or stupid not to understand what this thread topic is all about?
is this thread not about the iv scandal? is it about pac?
the organizations that exonerated floyd are also involved and cleared floyd just to cover their own asses..
Oh my GAD! Is he dead!!! Poor PAC, now Ployd beat him too easy. More than easy, Oh My Gad. Ployd cheated, IV, PEDs, superior boxing skills.
PAC even had a revelation that Ployd would beat him. A dream come true.
ah, putrid ramblings from one emotionally disturbed guy who stated he loves boxing (not the boxer) or something to that effect...
pathetic, to say the least...
listen, have some bread..."look what you've done?"...give floyd some,,,
What could be simpler then answering the question of why FM needed the IV. The NSAC could pressure USADA to release of a few documents which would tell us the condition which allowed FM to receive the IV.
But the NSAC says it has no interest in investigating the situation.Well, why not?
The week of an FM fight brings an additional 400 million dollars to Vegas hotels and casinos.
A new sports venue opens in Vegas in April and FM opening the place going for #50 would be a dream come true for Nevada and Las Vegas.
Meanwhile an investigation has the potential to call into question FM and Vegas' biggest fight and the reputation of FM and the NSAC.
Now if Nevada has the choice between stonewalling and possibly making megabucks with fight #50 or investigating a dicey situation that could blow up in their face, what do you think they will do?
In addition the boxing establishment has no use for any more bad news that an inquiry would bring out so there's pretty unanimous agreement to let this sleeping dog just keep on sleeping.
this sums it all up....
usada, nsac and floyd have all dirty fingers....
nsac will not initiate an investigation that will drag itself down...
so there's no mystery why usada, nsac and floyd could all sing "we are the champions"
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to answer a very direct & clear question.
My opinion, only my opinion.
He needed to get every advantage to keep his perfect record in place. He has no sponsors. None. A one man show. He knows how corporate America works.
As soon as you take money, they tell you what to do. Like all American presidents.
After being cheated out of a gold medal at the Olympics, he realized he better take control of his life & career, asap. Keep in mind his whole family fought pro. He learned from guys that were Korned by promoters what he needed to do. Be your own boss. If you can't make them love you, f-it! Make them hate you. WWEpro wrestling crap.
Winning became the only thing, beating the golden boy, propelled him even farther into the spot light.
Losing not being an option, negotiating his own contracts, allowed Floyd to cast off the promoter shackles and be free.
Floyd became fixated on being the A side, picking and choosing who he fought, when he fought them, where he fought them, & every other aspect of the fight game.
He "cheated", because losing is not an option.
"After being cheated out of a gold medal at the Olympics, he realized he better take control of his life & career, asap." and....
"He "cheated", because losing is not an option."
wow! so floyd cheated all the way to IVIX wins!? really!?
i don't think so...as a true boxing fan i appreciate the beautiful wins floyd got in his early years...
Floyd is 48 -1 forever in my heart. Unless he UN-retires, but that neg one
-1 is a different beast.
Castillo doesn't need 10 x or 100 x slow motion review of the video to prove anything.
Castillo beating Floyd!
My mind tells me to look at the facts.
Those 3 judges ringside didn't agree with me.
But Castillo took the loss. No tight socks! No fake shoulder injuries.
Even a Spanish only Castillo could read enough of a foreign tongue to fill out his English forms properly.
PAC is becoming a stupid liar!
Prove me wrong!!!
Sorry for stealing your illogical catch phrase XXXX!
a continuing breakdown...
breathe! boy breathe!
show me you are not the LOCO
Spoon, Tagalog, Rath, have not even commented on this video? Very puzzling because the love videos!!!
Guys, 3Gfightfan has slapped y'all with his white glove.. Yet nobody wants to talk about this interview???? Very interesting!
Slip, I believe TrippleGfighter has put them in checkmate.
What do his core defenders have to say to his own words..
Oh My GAD!!
now you are getting much much more better in your ping pong ways...
manny can say that the world is flat but that does not in any way connect to the iv issue...open a thread on that if you wish...and i assure you that thread will be one you will regret making....
Spoon, were you born in the U.S.??? Answer not needed! Winning is the only thing. Winning in the U.S. Will always be the only thing, while regurgitating the standard bull of honesty & fairness!! That is what heroes are made of!
you see it that way because your eyes and mind can only reach that level....
when lying and cheating are acceptable it is just like the end justify the means eh?
ques horror! barbaric too!
You see, finally you're getting the logic on the macrocosm of things. The IV scandal is like throwing a bone for a dog. Yes, the combined three; Hauser, HBO, and Top Rank.
Floyd is a genius. Years back, even though ESPN were and have always been Pro-Pacquiao they had no idea that one day Pac would finally agree to WADA style testing because they didn't think Pac would have serious tax issues meaning he needed the money to fight Floyd in 2015.
This is why the infamous Brian Kenny interview asking Pacquiao why he never wanted WADA style testing was and will always haunt Pac's true image, and Atlas always said it best, that if you've got nothing to hide then just do it, and as Ariza stated, Arum never wanted the fight to happen beacuse it would discredit his number 1 Top Rank fighter if he lost. The value would decline. Thats common sense. Along with inconsistent excuses for the fight negotiations and fans eating up media excuses...just always sad.
Yeah this is why the Hauser report is just affiliated HBO nonsense in which nonsensical readers dont question nor have an idea of politics is just sad. They only look at the microcosm of things because its easier to grasp, such as the stupid IV issue.
Again, ESPN's Dan Rafael always defended the idea for Pac to only use the NSAC and said Pac was not obligated to give blood. Thats how they wanted to discredit Floyd. Its all on youtube unlike stupid theory people bring up. Anything I relate to, like my upcoming doc, is all based on testimony or transcription from people in the sport we love.
Politics 101.
oh no! not again! don't you get tired of evading the issue?
"Yes, the combined three; Hauser, HBO, and Top Rank."
so answer me this; who between hauser, hbo and top rank set up the iv?
and....who between hauser, hbo and top rank requested the tue?
Unlike most people, I demand that my friends speak the truth always. This friend checks me regularly, and so do a few guys on this site, and in my professional life. Without that, I will probably believe any success I have is all about me, but any failures, we're not my fault.
My friends are vicious! I love them for it. The love me for harsh points of view.
Question???
Can you or anyone tell me in the history of USADA/WADA or what ever testing bodies, for boxing in all the 50 states, how many ex post facto (after the fact) TUE have ever been requested and granted???
This is my big question, for me, an old guy.
Thanks buddy.
I wish we had In n Out burgers here in Tokyo! I would eat an extra burger fir you.
But my big question means a lot to me.
i am not aware of any....have to dig up on this one...
actually, this is the first time in my following of boxing that i came to such case...and with this magnitude considering the stature of the two fighters...
i was aware of some fighters being caught using peds....but really not about tue as in this case...
tue tue tue tue speaking words of wisdom tue...
Would you say your posts to date reflect an evenhanded objectivity about Mayweather?
even handed?
may be or may be not!? it depends on how one looks at my posts...
i post replies in line or in keeping up with the views put in front of me...
when other posters threw in sh*t, i have to admit there were times i hit back...
but if you will go back to some of my posts, i have pointed out that this issue is more than floyd and pac...that this issue is really not about personalities...
it is the shortfall in the system...
To Everything There is a Season
1To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
it is the evening of the day (like in retirement)
i sit and watch the children play (retirees only get to watch)
smiling faces i can see (for who?)
but not for me (pity, poor floyd always get booed)
i sit and watch, as tears go by (drip drip drip)
If I do have std on the brain it is my fault! No shoulder injury. No excuses! I got this std mind in Manila! Went down firing every round in my nut sack!
The country I left has amazing people who need opportunities! I give more $$$ in support of my daughter than philAms to their relatives that they don't want to visit.
Those philAm b1tches love PAC, but not the Philippines. They suffer from an identity crisis. Brown on the outside, soft & white on the inside! Soft & White!
I have spent nearly 3 years in the Philippines. They are my people! Talaga
wow! you seem so delighted to announce your lustful conquest in manila! i wonder what your daughter(?) think of this...
anyway, makati should be alright with you gone...
next time you get back to the philippines, i suggest you visit mandaluyong as well...
it will do you a lot good...
I only drink heavily in makati. The abject poverty, and my inability do do anything about it.
This NSB is a distraction.
I am spending lots of energy with things that are important to me.
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Subject: Re: Today's OP-ED in Denver Post
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It will be interesting how they react, especially to the part about Jewish terrorism. Be well! rich
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I spend far more time on this issue than making fun of PAC fanatics. Ho ho ho. You seem more obsessed with PAC worship than anything else. The Israel Plaestine issue is complex. PAC fanatics do nothing except complain. Floyd this, and Floyd that.... Floyd destroyed fragile minds. Trying to retrench and rewrite history.
I got bigger fish to fry. PAC is a small fry!
is it walt disney?, like let it go?
and drink heavily only in makati!?
hmmm are you trying to show me the angel in you?
try harder, please...
And yet the most conceivable reason for the IV gate based on the poll is,
It was to make sure no one else was doping so HE could @ 57.14%
Ouch hehehehehehehe
of course, before..
level the playing field!...
clean up boxing!
and now...
set up the iv...
get the tue..
oh my, what happened? please tell me more!
Yup, If Rath can find out exact time he left the weigh-in. Then there is a small window for Floyd to take the IVS. 750ml takes hours to infuse to an athletes system. If it's too short a time. That's a system flush for sure
yes, that was what i am trying to figure out....
if the weigh in ceremonies took say 1 1/2 - 2 hours, then add a few minutes for floyd to go back home, then the iv and collection process time frame is reduced much less than 6hrs...
Slip,
Found this article. There are honest Filipinos! Hallelujah!!
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/05/sadness-grips-philippines-pacquiao-defeat-150503215602144.html
Excerpt below
Some fans said Pacquiao should retire from boxing while others demanded a rematch. For thousands at a plaza in Marikina city, part of metropolitan Manila, the mood was dampened not just by his loss but also by a sudden downpour.
Filipino sports writer Rick Olivares told Al Jazeera that it was "a sad fact but we really do have to admit that Floyd Mayweather definitely did win this match.
"It's a sad nation, the national pride has been pricked and yes, the judges did pretty much get it right," Olivares said.
"I know that doesn't want to end his career on a sour note. As we've said earlier this was a legacy fight and he's taken a few losses in his last few bouts.
End excerpt
I like Rick Olivares, a Filipino sports writer... Let's invite him to join us on Boxingscene??? NSB!!! Surely he knows something???
Oh My Gad!!!! Is he dead??? PAC fan post Marquez KO of PAC. The rest has been downhill after that!
in fair play, why not invite evander as well.....
that should be interesting, yeah?