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Lol only uncle Bob could say Khan means absolutely nothing in the US and not much in the UK... He said "Khan means a lot in England". You could use some focus... Cheers.

so? is it a list of trashtalkers, or just people calling the fight wrong? Whats your point? I think (no offense to our American friends) that an under-hyped American boxer comes along once in a generation. It's not that American boxers aren't any good (hell, they are often great) it's just that, good or bad, they will INEVITABLY get a degree of hype. In the US hyping is just a cultural thing, and once you understand this you get the feeling there's nothing really wrong about it (nothing really great either though). Thrash talking though is an entirely different matter. As for the Calzaghe-Lacy fight, I was rooting for Calzaghe but must admit I did not discount the Lacy hype enough so I was afraid Lacy will stop JC. I also want to point out that Lacy indeed took JC's punishment like a man for the full 12 rounds. It takes some gut to do that. And you cannot do what JC did without a healthy dose of brilliance.

The problem with boxing... In summary, I see two main problems with boxing (will elaborate a bit on both): 1. Being an ego-maniac (that trains like a demon because nothing/nobody else in life interests you other than not losing) plays too big a role in how well you do in boxing. Imagine 2 guys are equally gifted at birth for boxing, but one is an ego-maniac while the other is a nice, laid-back guy. Who’s gonna do better? In boxing when we celebrate great achievements we might just celebrate a guy being an ego-maniac. 2. Boxing will reward disproportionately… exactly those fighters who need LESS courage to climb between the ropes and fight. The underdogs, who need a ton of guts to face a vastly superior/stronger fighter bent on taking their head of… they will be rewarded a lot less than the supremely gifted athlete who knows the fight is just gonna be easy work. This sucks big time. I really felt like saying this... feel better now.

The problem with boxing (problem #1 in more detail) Problem #1 (this might apply to some other sports too) Boxing is a lot (or too much) about being an ego-maniac obsessed with yourself and with not losing. Now, I am not hating ego-maniacs or anything (whish them well and speedy recovery). And I’m really not swiping at Floyd here, even though it might look that way (given that he’s such a highly driven athlete). But consider this HYPOTHETICAL situation: You have two kids being born and they are EQUALLY gifted for sports (athleticism, reflexes, agility/coordination, etc). Just one difference between them: one is a nice, normal, modest and laid-back guy, while the other is basically a selfish/self-absorbed guy, the kind that usually are so driven they end up becoming ego-maniacs that fear defeat more than anything. Now, we ASSUMED they are equally gifted but ask yourself: who’s gonna do better in his boxing career? It’s common sense that the ego-maniac is the one who will train like a demon 24/7, as if his very life is on the line. And this will give him the edge. So he will end up beating the nice guy (equally gifted in every sense!!!) in some historic fight, and all us dummies will be screaming/hyperventilating as if a once-in-a-lifetime talent just made history. But what we are really witnessing/celebrating… is him being an ego-maniac and getting the edge because of it (remember we hypothesized they are equally gifted). We would say with gravity things like: “we’ll never again see such a gifted boxer”, “it was an honor to witness this”, “the loser is great too but just couldn’t match this God given talent”... And all these would be just plain stupid things to say and we would just be celebrating the consequences of being an ego-maniac. Realizing this makes me uneasy about being too big of a boxing fan. How about you?

The problem with boxing... I did not post in like 4 years, I used to be quite active on Estsidebxng before. Boxing is still the only sport I follow (the documentary ***8220;When we were kings***8221; got me hooked) but I slowly realized it kinda sucks for 2 main reasons, and I want to point them out. But before that, a quick comment on Manny-Floyd. I like Manny as a fighter and as a person but I think Floyd is likely to take it. If Floyd didn***8217;t have the size/reach advantage***8230; then probably I would have went with Manny (thinking Floyd***8217;s skills not enough against Manny***8217;s heart). In summary, here's the two main problems with boxing (will elaborate a bit on both): 1. Being an ego-maniac (that trains like a demon because nothing/nobody else in life interests him other than not losing) plays too big a role in boxing success. Imagine 2 guys are EQUALLY gifted at birth, but one is an ego-maniac while the other is a nice, laid-back guy. Who***8217;s gonna do better as a boxer? In boxing when we celebrate great achievements we might just celebrate a guy getting an edge because he's an ego-maniac. 2. Boxing will reward disproportionately***8230; exactly those fighters who need LESS courage to climb between the ropes and fight. The underdogs, who need a ton of guts to face a vastly superior/stronger fighter bent on taking their head of***8230; they will be rewarded a lot less than the supremely gifted athlete who knows the fight is just gonna be easy work. This sucks big time. I just wanted to say this. I might elaborate in two more posts.

The problem with boxing as a sport... I did not post in like 4 years, I used to be quite active on Estsideboxng before. Boxing is still the only sport I follow (the documentary "When we were kings" got me hooked) but I slowly realized it kinda sucks for 2 main reasons, and I want to point them out. But before explaining my beef with boxing, a quick comment on Manny-Floyd. I like Manny as a fighter and as a person but I think Floyd is likely to take it. If Floyd didn't have the size/reach advantage then probably I would go with Manny (thinking Floyd's skills not enough against Manny's heart).

****in laughing stock of boxing. The more they talk the worse they're looking. Take your L and move on. If the result is all that matters then you could just get an email from the judges... no need to see the fight and debate. How about that? This is boxing, unless you knock the opponent out, it goes to the judges (who are only human... or worse, hehe). Then, many times, there's only one fight which brings into play how great one fighter feels in the particular night (look at Floyd-Maidana I, Floyd probably wasn't in top shape). Debate is welcome, what the heck, it's just that apparently people can't keep it civilized.

****in laughing stock of boxing. The more they talk the worse they're looking. Take your L and move on. If the result is all that matters then you could just get an email from the judges... no need to see the fight and debate. How about that? This is boxing, unless you knock the opponent out, it goes to the judges (who are only human... or worse, hehe). Then, many times, there's only one fight which brings into play how great one fighter feels in that particular fight (look at Floyd-Maidana I). Debate is welcome, what the heck, it's just that apparently people just can't keep it civilized.

Floyd calling Manny a coward? Telling him to "accept the loss"? Coming from a convicted serial woman beater that's still in denial about it... that's a compliment !!! Floyd, a guy with a lifelong obsession of not getting hit, calling a fan friendly explosive boxer/puncher a coward??? The lifelong cherry picker (with a coupe exceptions when we was forced) calling a guy that always took all comers (no matter their size, skill or ferocity)... a coward? Listen up little person... if you take on GGG you still won't have half the courage that Filipino has. Junior is TOTALLY disconnected from reality. This is not anymore the case of a smug, uneducated boxer trying to act "ghetto cool"... this man needs treatment. I mean we are talking pathology here! Floyd, I feel for you buddy (health is the most important and you miss some), but... you really make me cringe. So you better jump at that well reserved deserved and please don't let us boxing fans waste any more of your time. Thanks buddy, I appreciate it.

A coward that doesn't accept a loss?? Floyd calling Manny a coward??? Telling him to "accept the loss"??? Coming from a convicted serial woman beater that's still in denial about it... that's a compliment !!! It would be pretty funny if it weren't pretty sad. Floyd, a guy with a lifelong obsession of not getting hit, calling a fan-friendly explosive boxer/puncher a coward??? The lifelong cherry picker (with a coupe exceptions when we was forced) calling a guy that always took all comers (no matter their size, skill or ferocity)... a coward??? Just when I was starting to think that Floyd, maybe for the first time in his life, is in danger of showing a bit of class... he comes up with this mental manure (and throws it strait at the ceiling fan that was keeping him cool). Listen up little person junior... if you take on GGG you still won't have half the courage that Filipino has. As for class... forget about even trying. Junior is TOTALLY disconnected from reality. This is not the case of a smug, uneducated boxer trying to act "ghetto cool" anymore... this man needs treatment! I mean we are talking pathology here. Floyd, I feel for you buddy (health is the most important thing and you miss some), but... you really make me cringe. So you better do me a favor and jump at that well deserved retirement. Buy yourself a dozen more cars and keep throwing 100$ bills at your selfie-stick camera (practice makes perfect, if you do that... be TBE at it). Please don't let us boxing fans waste any more of your time. Thanks buddy, I appreciate it.

The problem with boxing (problem #2 in more detail) Problem #2 with boxing. The LESS courage you need to get in the ring and fight… the MORE this sport will reward you! What really takes a ton of courage/guts is climbing between the ropes to face a vastly superior, stronger and faster fighter bent on taking your head off. If you are in that situation… boxing will not reward you as much he will reward your opponent, who, unlike you, doesn’t need much guts to fight since he’s so much better. This cannot be a good thing, it has nothing to do with fairness and, for me, it’s kinda embarrassing to be a part of this.

Relax nacho Um, that first sentence in your #1 beef is so retarded that I had to take a break before continuing. I had to take several breaks before reading the entire post. You sound like someone who has never had the drive/courage to compete...in anything. You bemoan someone's talent because you didn't want to work hard enough to develop your own (I believe we are all born with aptitudes for something). Sorry to ruin your day, man, but nothing in life worth having is comes free. Like any good coach or father will tell their kids, "you cannot hide hard work." The guys who rise to the top level of their respective sports got their primarily on hard work, not talent. First, don't worry, my days never ruined by any replies. Second, you shouldn't jump at calling people names, you make yourself look "not good" (if you catch my drift) in the eyes of intelligent/civilized readers. Then let me help you with logic. Don't focus on how people "sound" but rather on what people actually "say". Science not concerned with how things APPEAR TO BE but with how things ARE. You get this? Otherwise your style will only lead to shallow understanding and therefore disconnected replies (like this one I am just commenting on). Your conclusions are unwarranted: I never had the drive/courage to compete? I bemoan someone's talent? I didn't want to work hard? There is NOTHING in my post that allows you to draw such conclusion (certainly not in an intelligent way). Ask someone who's intelligence you trust for a confirmation. Moreover you don't know me. So how do you call confidently jumping to these off-the-wall hypothesis? And just to show you I'm not upset, here's some help with understanding my #1 beef with boxing (since I think that's important): Effort is required to win in any sport. But if that's pretty much ALL you need... then the sport is arguably not so brilliant. And that was my beef with boxing, that being an ego-maniac (term used kinda like a proxy for the amount of effort one puts in) plays TOO BIG a role in how well you do in boxing. Nothing in your post directly or indirectly counters that (in spite of your impression). Here's an even easier way: you heard about the sport called "bare-hand holing"? It's about who can dig the deepest hole in the ground (using his bare hands) over a 20 year period. Now focus a bit and answer this: what does it take to be the best ever (TBE) in holing? Rings a bell? You are welcome! ;) PS You probably did not hear about "bare-hand holing" because I just invented this sport to help your understanding.