It’s easy to say the guy is uneducated, speaks Ebonics, etc., but his life is boxing and knows the sport inside out. One thing Floyd Jr. has said is people don’t go from ordinary to extraordinary, and I don't think that Pac was ever ordinary but he was equal to JMM, as 24 rounds showed us and he did get outpointed by Morales. People usually don't get better in their 30's. All the things guys were doing in baseball the past 10 years defied all logic, eventually logic prevailed. Now Jose Bautista, a guy who's career high has been about 15 hr’s and wasn’t even a power hitter in the minors, has been Babe Ruth for the past 2 years. Will something be revealed eventually? Does everyone really think he's clean? If Pac destroys JMM when they fight what does that mean? That Pac has improved so dramatically? That’s like 2 guys who are equal in another sport, equal performance, stats, and then all of a sudden one guy is superior to the other and it's no competition that too would be illogical. I consider myself neutral and just want to see the fight, but you have to admit Pac’s career trend is very odd and unprecedented.
Respected the effort and he seems to live for boxing but the reality is if not for his brother he would have never gotten the pay day. The fact that this fight was for a belt is embarrasing.
I completly agree with this ranking. Fighters fight. If Mayweather has a problem with everyone showering Pac and Martinez with praises for their performances then he needs to get in the ring and prove he is the best.
Boxing is so fixed, i wonder how long this trip was planned. Would De La Hoya be taking Ponce De Leon if he got the decision instead of Broner, 99-91 lol.
LOL if it wasn't for cheating? We don't know if his big wins were even legitimate. Cotto and Cintron both seem to think Margo cheated in those wins. How can his resume be better with those question marks? Bradley is way faster then Margartio and he is very strong, you saw how he strength trains on HBO this past week. Margo is a walking mummy, his best asset is that he can take a good punch in the face. Mosley won every minute of every round, what do you think Pac will do? That fight is garbage.
Good f*ck you Bob Arum. Protecting your guys, trying to cash in and screwing the fans. You lost your Juanma - Gamboa mega fight, the bloom is off the rose.
You guys still arguing about testing for the past year, your wasting your energy. Floyd doesnt want any piece of this guy. Pac agreed to the testing or enough testing, I dont think anyone really belives hes cheating. I've been neutral all along, but Pac is an all time great and deserves credit. Ive defended Floyd plenty but ultimatley he has to come out of hiding and get in the ring.
Why does Bradley need to clean out 140 before he gets a fight with Pac? Hes proven to be a tough, strong fighter, who will give 1000% when he gets his shot. He wont be giving Manny hugs and high fives every round like clottley did. He will fight, scratch, claw and butt. It will be a fight.
Also, what did Margorito do to deserve as shot? Did he clean out 147? Paul Williams beat him, Mosley knocked him unconscience. Plus he got caught trying to cheat and if he did cheat vs Cotto he should be in jail. He cant even fight in the US. Top Rank is a disgrace.
What do you expect joining a fraud tournament, it's showtime...:wtf:
What makes it a fraud, because its on showtime? They are having 4 of the best in a divison fight each in 2 good nights of boxing. Mares won that decsion as did Agbeko. I'm looking forward to the final
Of course this SHOULD be the norm, but its not. Promoters are afraid to risk their guys until they get the ultimate pay day (see Arum 100x over). These guys but 2 of their best young fighters in there in a high risk fight. They should be commended, the sport needs more of this.
That was a fight?
Compubox should have recorded how many times Mosley went to touch Pac's gloves. It was a lot more then power punches. Since when can't you just congradulate the guy and be a good sport after the fight. For 36 miniutes you should want to take the guys head off. Where is the spirit of competition? When Mosley would throw shot at the belt line, Pacquaio was telling him to bring them up, and he stopped !!!??? Let the ref handle that, if a guy doesnt like getting hit there hit him 5 more times, it a fking fight!!! Tim Bradley is a fighter, scratch, claw, headbutt, use all your facilities to wear down and hurt your opponent. When its over then say hes a great guy, but not during. All the money people paid around the world, that was disgracefull.
can't argue with that, but that doesn't mean bradley gets to duck the entire 140 lbs division.
You guys are a joke with this ducking thing. Everyone is ducking everybody else, get off it. Bradley signed to fight Maidana but he pulled out with a non existant injury. He called out everybody after Pac. I like Alexander but hope he loses to shut Cunniham up.
Peterson's team said whatever makes business sense (money) they will fight. Let's face it, last week he made $650k which was by far his biggest payday & now he's offered $1 mil. No one else in the division will even make him close to $650k, let alone $1 mil.
Hes offered 1 million? Hes the champ and he should be doing the offering. I would tell Khan he gets 40% or go somewhere else. Let Khan fight Guerrero or Bradley and get a 3rd loss at such a young age.
Nobody is mentioning that he was dropped clean earlier. I've never even seen PacMan get hurt before and he got dropped by a very wide right early in the fight and then knocked out cold. If you dont see a decline you're kidding yourself, it was more than just one punch.
"I'm saying it right now, they should have built Jr up a little more before cashing him out. Getting KO'd by a guy like Sergio can really mess with your head and ruin your career. I hope he can bounce back from this" This is the problem with boxing, losing 1x isnt an elimination. Chavez is a defending champion and needs to fight the lineal champion to see whos best in the divison, "building people up" foever is horsesh**t and is ruining the sport. We need to see teh best fights, if Chavez loses its because hes not good enough right now but its not the end of a career.
Why is it that Arthur Abraham was able to fight with his jaw hanging off and Ortiz couldnt make it 3 more rounds? Especially with a huge payday at the other end. Ortiz may have been looking for a way out again with that shot behind the head. The ref said it was a "grazing blow" but it wasnt. He held Lopez head and punched straight down. Something is off with Ortiz, he just doesnt have the mental makeup to be a top fighter. The big winner is Kirkland, I think GBP will have to pay him now.
Pascal lost 8 rounds to 4. I dont care if Hopkins is American or German. Pascal was completly gased and was dominated from rd 4 to the finish. This is why boxing sucks.
Bradley is a guy who believes in himself, his faith, his family, someone will have to take it from him. Devon wasnt strong enough physically or mentally to do that.
This is just wrong...pac is fighting for the jr middleweight belt but coming in as a welterweight?...i mean to come in 1 or 2 lbs from from 154 is fine but hes not even fighting ad a jr middle but if he wins he gets the belt...
Im not a pac fan, but what are you talking about? What about Henry Armstrong or Sugar Ray Robinson? They fought guys 2 divisons heavier, if he wins good for him, shows how great he is.
A 3rd Marquez fight has more intrigue then watching Plasterito. There are MANY people who feel Marquez beat Pacquaio 2x. He deserves another shot and payday. Arum is a scumbag and is runing the sport with his greed.
Cortez
I didnt even see the video of the trainer but Cortez was awfull. He took a point with no warning for an elbow that didnt even land on Khan, elbow may have hit Cortez. Since when cant guys punch out of a hold? Maidana consistently had 1 hand free and Cortez would break. Cortez did all he could to make sure it would be fought in the style to benfit Khan. Very good and close fight but this is why boxing sucks. If the ref isnt in the promoters pocket the judges are.
155
There is no way Canelos first fight at 160 will be vs GGG. If he was seriously considering fighting at 160 this upcoming fight would be at 160 vs Willie Monroe or someone like that. He will insist on 155 and GGG will need to make a decision. Canelo is the cash cow. Would wbc strip for not fighting at full weight?