Saying facts is overrating? Luis Collazo hasn't been stopped in 13 years, and Thurman stopped him. How in the hell is that overrating him? I didn't even say an opinion, I basically just said facts.
They are indeed facts,but just cause something's a fact doesn't mean they hold any relevance, Thurman stopping a mediocre fighter(who's been decked couple times & is at the drive end of his career) is nothing to smile about.
Remember,when this fight was announced Keith took a lot of heat, Collazo & his "13 years of whatevah" did'nt mean *****
No relevance.
Margarito has fought and beaten better opposition than the TOMATO CANs the Triple Duck likes to knock over...
Those "tomato cans" had balls, unlike your boyfriends cotto & carl.
That is GGG's "thing", he has lots of power, that's how we expect to see him win. I don't expect GGG to outbox anyone or go 12. He went 11 with Murray, but otherwise he beat up, not perfect but did beat him up. Still, this thread is a terrible comparison because there is obviously more to Thurman than just power, he does like to box and move around often, while GGG is just come forward at all times and just use his power.
And it's funny how you're trying to belittle Golovkin's win against Murray by saying it was "not perfect". Golovkin never left first gear and still put an absolute beating on Murray! All Murray had for that fight was guts!
As for Golovkin, I'm a huge fan of his but his performances against Monroe and Murray haven't been too good, his defense was seriously lacking in those two bouts and we've never seen Thurman get hit that much.
As for Monroe, Golovkin allowed Monroe to hit him. It's ok if you don't believe that, but everything points to that being the truth! Monroe didn't do anything differently to change how the fight was going. Golovkin on the other hand clearly changed his approach. He could've kept stalking like he normally does but he put away his jab, and dropped his guard and was literally urging Monroe to hit him. Golovkin extended the Big Drama Show but then went back to doing what he does best and made Willie a good boy!
And I don't think you're a "huge fan" of Golovkin. You're just a hater masking as a fan! Or maybe you are a "huge fan" but like Kev, UDKSAB!
Like I said earlier, there's some Golovkin fights on YouTube, check them out. You might learn something.:bottle:
I expected a 12 round beating by Thurman. Instead there was a 7th round stoppage. Luis Collazo hasn't been stopped since 2002. He faced Shane Mosley, Ricky Hatton, Andre Berto, Victor Ortiz, and Amir Khan..neither of them could stop him. Thurman went out and stopped a guy who hasn't been stopped in 13 years. He wasn't gonna go out there and get a 3rd round KO, but he went out there and got the stoppage.
Good for him. And meanwhile Golovkin DROPS & KOs guys who have NEVER been dropped or stopped!
GGG fans are literally in love with GGG. The sad part is, they're not just in love with his skills. They're in love with his looks, his swag, his aura, etc...
I'm not gay so I'm not sure why GGG seems to attract mostly homosexual fans.
I hate to bring race into this, but after reading this thread, the GGG fans have already made this about race, so I'll entertain it.
GGG is nothing more than another installment of the GWH. I think we all know what that stands for.
GGG is skilled. He has great power, seemingly a solid chin and is very aggressive.
It's a shame his insecure white fans feel so threatened by Ward and Mayweather.
GGG can beat plenty of African American boxers. I think he'd KO Kid Chocolate, Tim Bradley, etc...
However, he can't hold Mayweather or Ward's spit bucket. They'd both EMBARRASS GGG and his insecure fans know it.
It's ok guys, Money May will be retired soon and GGG can then feast on Money's leftovers: Cotto and Canelo.
The sad part is you had to post with so much balls on your face.:fing26:
If he was that damn good, he would have moved up in weight and fought better competition by now. By the time they fought their 33rd fight, Cotto had moved up one weight division above his original division, Shane Mosley had moved up two weight divisions and Mayweather had moved up three divisions. Golovkin should be fighting at 175 by now (after supposedly cleaning out 168) instead of begging former 130 and 140 pound fighters to fight him.
Really? The idiotness that lies in you, you're comparing smaller fighters who have moved up in weight to Golovkin, who's a well sized middleweight. All these small guy weight classes are closer to one another so it's easier and natural to just move up,and besides,since when it became a mandatory to move up?(hagler never moved up)
And Golovkin is trying to get better & bigger men fights, Carl Froch!We're still waiting on this guy.
That is GGG's "thing", he has lots of power, that's how we expect to see him win. I don't expect GGG to outbox anyone or go 12. He went 11 with Murray, but otherwise he beat up, not perfect but did beat him up. Still, this thread is a terrible comparison because there is obviously more to Thurman than just power, he does like to box and move around often, while GGG is just come forward at all times and just use his power.
ARE YOU SERIOUS!?
Damn Kev, you done screwed up!
Golovkin is not all just power! Hes's one of the few power punchers that actually have some Mad skills, he's patient, he cuts the ring with excellence, goes to the body like no other, fires the jab with intention (not like some other boxers that just pitty pat jabs) he knows distance very well, and he has one of the best timing in boxing (contributing to many of his Knockouts!)!
You couldn't name ONE THING! that Thurman does better than Golovkin! NOT ONE THING!!!!
You honestly DKSAB if you a think Golovkin is " just power"! Seriously, you need help man...... you need help.
Every fighter deserves respect who ever fought in the ring.
Golovkin is a good fighter he just happened to be overrated as fuck by many guys here. HBO pushes him and wants him to be their next Pacquiao but I don't think he has enough talent and potential to fulfill that promise.
He's not overrated! so STFU!
He has more than enough talent & potential to surpass pacquiao, and those other "champions" see that talent & potential and are shook! so they avoid him( one retired ).
And even with him not fighting these other so called champions, he still does GREAT numbers on HBO, he's a true Champion(an active one as well )& a Star, and I'm sure HBO loves having him on their network.
And I will than continue to call these other fighters ducks & a chicken till they lose their feathers and fight him.
You're getting me confused with your mother.
You are confused I see , seek help, tell them you're getting slapped in the face with so much balls. :bottle:
Collazo was destroyed and quit on his stool. Didn't see the final bell. He had 10-seconds of true success. :lol1:
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You call that "destroyed"??
You need to watch some Golovkin fights,
Now those are DESTRUCTION fights!!!
INb4 people start overrating Collazo... oops too late.
Exactly! Kev here is already throwing out points for him,lol, we have a guy like collazo whos's been dropped many times before, &
at the tail's end of his career, it's only about time till he gets the stopsign.
Wow. What a compliment! He destroys guys he is supposed to beat. Fans should create a GolovkinisGod web page just to worship him based on this!
My question is why, after 33 fights, is Golovkin still fighting guys that he is supposed to beat?
He's supposed to beat them because he's that damn good!!!
And these other so called champions are ducking and making up mandatories!lol
i guarantee you canelo and cotto stop most of ggg's opponents
Have you not kept up with reality, Canelo don't want it in the middleweight division which is why he created his own division
155 where he and the duck cotto will be fighting in.
And as far as them stopping Triple G's opponents!hahaha! When cotto had a chance to prove such against one of GGG's
Opponents he went and drained him and it still took him one more round then it took GGG, who fought the middleweight Geale at his best! And as for canelo(see first paragraph)
Watched it again and I repeat, this was your typical Thurman performance. One of his greatest attributes is his conditioning, Collazo would have gotten taken out in bigger fashion eventually and we wouldn't even be entertaining this shit thread.
As for Golovkin, I'm a huge fan of his but his performances against Monroe and Murray haven't been too good, his defense was seriously lacking in those two bouts you and we've never seen Thurman get hit that much. So the "typical Thurman performance" is to not impress? Hahaha!
And you say "taken out in bigger fashion"? Really, the fight went 7 rounds, what was he waiting for? A Runway?(with the way PBC is set up, they could fit that in there lol!)
And not once watching the fight, that I felt Thurman was going to destroy or take out Collazo! This fight looks like it was headed to a decision if not for that cut!
And if you want to talk about defense, and Thurman not getting hit that much, we can go back and watch the Diego Chaves fight where Chaves popped him a NOSE BLEED!
And his fight with Soto Karass where he had Thurman dancing in the first round, and Thurman has also been knocked down!
And now we have this painful bodyshot from Collazo, and for a guy like Thurman who moves and jumps around the ring a lot, he sure gets hit with some hard power shots as opposed to a guy like Golovkin who comes forward right at you, daring you to hit him!and still manages to get hit less than Keith, and many other professional boxers!
And you need to go watch more Golovkin fights!
There's some on YouTube.com check them out!
i wanna see ggg bully and walk through ward like he is doing to these other guys
not at 164
at 168
Than wait and you'll see.
For now, give GGG credit where credit is due.
There is nothing particularly impressive about knocking over TOMATO CANs..
The same "tomato cans" that gave p4p fighter Sergio Martinez trouble.(Macklin)
The same "tomato cans" that dropped p4p Sergio Martinez & arguably beat him.(Murray)
The same "tomato cans" that cotto ducked when he was his mandatory. (Rubio)
The same "tomato cans" that went into Felix Sturm's backyard (Germany)and defeated him & ending his streak of 12 title defenses, giving him his first lost in 6 years!!(Geale)
And they all become " tomato cans" AFTER Golovkin destroys them! Instead of giving Golovkin credit, ya haters dismiss these fighters and everything they've accomplished so ya can go around saying Golovkin "has'nt fought anyone" and that he "has to fight this guy, and that guy, or those guys" and when he does ya still gonna keep spitting ya crap!!
FU(K YA HATERS!!!http://www.pic4ever.com/images/926.gif
Yet Thurman alreaedy has a better resume than GGG and is like 8 years younger and has like 8 less fights than him.
WHAT?? Better resume?? Take that stick out of your brain!you sh1t!
Guerrero is thurman's best opponent to date!
Murray is Golovkin's & he also fought good names like Macklin & Geale!
Who has Thurman fought besides freaking Guerrero? Who goes life & death with journeymen!
IF he has so many holes in his game, then why aren't other fighters lining up to take advantage of them instead of running for the hills or right into retirement?
Green K sent.
The GGG d1ck riders are out of control. :lol1: sh1t is pathetic.
The ducking is getting out of control!!
Vacating their own titles,making up their very own weight class, making up mandatories............and now one goes flying into retirement!
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Beating an opponent easily that you're expected to beat easily deserves respect? I'll save mine for someone that challenges themselves against the best instead.
Beating an opponent easily is not the whole story, he DESTROYS them! that's the part some of you don't seem to understand.
Lots of fighters has faced opposition as the obvious favorite and what do they do, they'll go to the distance, they'll win & not look impressive, they'll bore out the viewers, and sometimes they'll LOSE!!
While GGG, he always brings excitement, even when the opponents run away from him or swoop into a shell, he goes about his way! BIG DRAMA SHOW!
He delivers, and you gotta respect that, he wants to fight the best, but hey, you can't throw ducks into the ring, it's not his fault guys grow wings & quack, but what does he do, he remains active, he fights, he entertains and fans know that (see his numbers) and we respect him for it.
Watch! there'll be a day, he'll catch one of those ducks, like you see in this picture right here:
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Ha-ha, if there were no breaks in between rounds,their would be even more clinching,
Fighters would get tired easier and just begin holding each other more and fights would just easily get boring.
And also, with no breaks in between, fights would get stopped faster as their would be no cornermen to help with fighter's cuts & bruises.
And that would take away from lots of potentially great fights as fighters get cuts and bumps many times.
Why does Golovkin deserve respect because Keith struggled with Collazo?
meh, I'll never understand the mind of a fan boy.
You can't read, can you? Or do you not understand what the thread post said, other's got the message but you with your dry brain come in here and type dumb sh1t.
Go and ask someone to read the Thread for you. You just "may" understand.:bottle:
so if GGG deserves respect for crushing cans like he is SUPPOSE to....how come young Swift and a few others don't get none for crushing the Salkas of the sport?!?....has GGG ever been the underdog?!?....whenever he's the underdog and bags a upset, I think more people will respect him....as of now, he's just another hyped up puncher with a weak resume....all his online defense lawyers claims he's being ducked and avoided by a handful of fighters....but there's another handful who's willing to fight him but there's some type of political excuse when it comes to those willing warriors....I just don't get this whole GGG thing....if someone criticizes the guy it's called HATING....maybe I'm just too much of a REALIST for the make believe bs
You brought salka into this.....you're not worth it.
GGG is a bad mfer & is one of the most entertaining guys in the sport these days, but with all the dick sucking going on with this guy with his current resume when he actually gets a elite level W **** is gonna be a bukkake party.
Don't post with so much dick in your mouth alright.
Just log off,you have 10 men in front of you
focus on them, you promised them bukkake,
so GTFOH!
Thurman just gave us big drama show. Time to move on
OH HELL NAH! F@ck U!!!!
That was not EVEN a drama show!
Only Triple G gives BIG DRAMA SHOW!!!
Time for you to eat some sense!