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It doesn't matter Frank You don't go from being a morbidly obese drug addict with serious depression to winning a world heavyweight championship in less than a year. And if he does????

Are you mental he just spent nearly a year in camp and lost 9st of weight. He is taking a holiday with his family and gets back in training nxt week.

Do you honestly think that if Pac man fought Mayweather the money would accept a 60/40 in pac mans favour....I think not 50/50 is the way to go, Hatton is Champion at that weight with the IBO i think and brings the ring championship, P4P No1 carrys no belt and Pac man has no belts at that weight, when Hatton fought Mayweather it was for his Welterweight WBC belt, if Pac man had a light welter belt I could see the reason but he has nothing at 140, Hatton is unbeaten at that weight and is universally recognised as the best 140 fighter on the planet so to me Pac Man aint quite the P4P best just yet and is tied with Calzaghe (Pac man prob edges it if u forced me to choose) but if he wins at 140 then he is beyond a shadow of a doubt P4P best undisputed and to do that he needs to go through Hatton but as he has no belts then 50/50 is a fair amount or as someone else mentioned 40/40 and the winner takes the extra 20% Pac Man could even take the US PPV buys and hatton takes the UK PPV splitting the rest down the middle. Also who would you place at No1 pound for pound if Pac man lost? I'm a huge hatton fan but even I dont think he would go no 1, I would have it Calzaghe, Hatton, PacMan.....offt imagine that 2 British fighers sitting at no1 & no2 the comments from Americans lol it dont bear thinking about

Having watched every single Fury fight and suppoorted him all the way I have to say this is a bad bad move from both Top Rank and Frank Warren. Pulev would have been justified and given him a mandatory status, Ortiz wow the respect he would get, Whyte again max respect. This guy shocking match making does nothing for him and in the eyes of boxing fans is a complete unknown, wont sell and leaves us shaking our heads. Terrible move, bad match making and Tyson should be wondering the same as should his team

I read the back and forth on here but the truth of the matter is below that no-one from etiher side can deny. 1st Ethan Cox, wasn't ranked 2nd Shannon Gray, wasn't ranked 3rd Richard Greene Jr, wasn't ranked 4th Joseph Rabotte, ranked 393rd in the World 5th Charles Brown, wasn't ranked 6th Kelsey Arnold, wasn't ranked 7th Travis Allen, wasn't ranked 8th Jerry Vaughn, wasn't ranked 9th Ty Cobb, ranked 399th in the Heavyweight World 10th Alvaro Morales, wasn't ranked 11th Dustin Nichols, wasn't ranked 12th Shannon Caudle, wasn't ranked 13th Harold Sconiers, wasn't ranked 14th Dan Sheehan, wasn't ranked 15th DeAndrey Abron, wasn't ranked 16th Reggie Pena, wasn't ranked 17th Damon Reed, ranked 304th in the World 18th Dominique Alexander, wasn't ranked 19th Daniel Cota, ranked 489th in the World 20th David Long, wasn't ranked 21st Marlon Hayes, ranked 368th in the World 22nd Jesse Oltmanns, ranked 492th in the World 23rd Owen Beck, wasn't ranked 24th Kertson Manswell, ranked 310th in the World 25th Damon McCreary, ranked 357th in the World 26th Kelvin Price, wasn't ranked 27th Matthew Greer, ranked 325th in the World 28th Audley Harrison, ranked 136th in the World ☆☆☆ 29th Siarhei Liakhovich, ranked 43rd in the World, Siarhei Liakhovich was a blown up, washed up way past his Prime Cruiserweight.☆☆☆ 30th Nicolai Firtha, ranked 121nd in the World 31st Malik Scott, ranked 86th in the World 32nd Jason Gavern, ranked 194th in the World 33rd Bermane Stiverne, ranked 4th in the World (Although was only that false ranking due to an Arreola win, a free title and never beat a top 30 opponent) 34th Eric Molina, ranked 37th in the World 35th Johann Duhaupas, ranked 34th in the World 36th Artur Szpilka, ranked 24th in the World 37th Chris Arreola, ranked 43rd in the World 38th Gerald Washington ranked 41st in the World 39th Bermane Stiverne "UNRANKED" 40th Luis Ortiz - 48 years old try and justify that and tell me who is the one avoiding true challanges and using excuses, AJ said in a Sky sports interview he looked at the contract and the points he mentioned, made changes (not Hearn) signed it and sent it with the date and venue and possibly the rematch issues. Wilder has this right now is again talking about dates and venues when this is all in the new one sent over. AJ said he has this till Jan and is willing to look at anything else he wants to discuss.

Man if BJS doesnt sign with or fight on DAZN he going to be a forgotten man. So much talent being wasted right now and if this doesnt end up being for a WBO title at SM he is screwed.

I can see what you guys are saying in terms of their being more money in the USA but you have to remember that the belt Froch holds is one of the most sought after at that weight and surely their fight should be about establishing the no1 in the divison as the belt was vacated by Joe C who was the bonified No1 I dont disagree that the fight should be made in the USA (for money) but its just to show that sometimes American fighers wont leave the USA either and just because someone fights on their side of the water it does not mean they are less of a fighter Either way its a great match up but it would just have been nice to hear JT (like the Pac man) say he would fight him anywhere not just if he is willing to come to US. Its a global economy these days and the average number of viewiers in the UK runs into millions but I always have to stay up till 4am to watch any fights, would just be nice sometimes to watch a huge fight at a slightly earlier time or one that accomodates both US & europe audiances in Frochs defence the TV audiance was in the millions with many snubbing the Khan fight to watch Froch so he has had massive exposure and was in all the papers the next day or 2 so in his next fight you can expect a sell out crowd and huge numbers watching, I for one will be regardless of location

Calzaghe being a number one? LOL don't think so. If JMM beats Juan Diaz, he'll be number two on the spot, and if Pac loses, JMM will take P4P 1. Calzaghe is retiring he aint getting the number one spot, and I think a win from Hatton puts him in the 4-6 spots, not the 1-3 spots.. Lol was juts on the wind up a bit there as I do agree if Hatton beat Manny he would be mid table unless he lined up his next fight with Marquez although joking side if Joe dont retire you cant count him out hitting No1 if he picks the right fights for status rather than money

I imagine less that 1 in 1000 people in uk would know the name Pacquiao if you said it too them, you would be lucky if 1 in 10000 knew who Cotto and Marg et al are. Man that is such HORRIBLE GARBAGE BULLSHIT, I cant believe some of the narrow minded stuff you guys come out with in American...population of US 301,139,947 PPV buys 1.5m = 1 in nearly every 300,000 buying that if my maths is correct I would imagine Froch pulled in well over 3 million for his fight on Sat plus add to that all the people buying sky to watch Khan then De la Hoya vs pac man and it would dwarf the PPV figures in the states, really man you dont have the first clue what your on about http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyViewingSummary Thats shows the viewing figures, Dec not out yet but am sure when it is you will see far more people watched the US boxing on Sat that in the US so your point is absolute GARBAGE MAN

Yup 60/40 argument settled or better yet winners takes all, fight for all the marbles, money, glory and bragging rights. Prob both only having one more night anyway, put all on the table..all in!!!

The only problem is Usyk is the automatic WBO mandatory moving up so even getting Tyson to No1 in the WBO he would not be in line for well over a year and closer to 2021 so honestly the fight makes no sense at all. Ortiz would have far better choice but if he faced Whyte after this that would be a good move and put him in a great position if we won. That is unless he faces AJ or Wilder after this gimmie.

A little history lesson What you seem to over look is Mayweather and Pacquiao were both making HUGE amounts in their own rights prior to making this fight and had fought the best, Wilder is not so why would he deserve to suddenly make $30 million. does this record justify that 1st Ethan Cox, wasn't ranked 2nd Shannon Gray, wasn't ranked 3rd Richard Greene Jr, wasn't ranked 4th Joseph Rabotte, ranked 393rd in the World 5th Charles Brown, wasn't ranked 6th Kelsey Arnold, wasn't ranked 7th Travis Allen, wasn't ranked 8th Jerry Vaughn, wasn't ranked 9th Ty Cobb, ranked 399th in the Heavyweight World 10th Alvaro Morales, wasn't ranked 11th Dustin Nichols, wasn't ranked 12th Shannon Caudle, wasn't ranked 13th Harold Sconiers, wasn't ranked 14th Dan Sheehan, wasn't ranked 15th DeAndrey Abron, wasn't ranked 16th Reggie Pena, wasn't ranked 17th Damon Reed, ranked 304th in the World 18th Dominique Alexander, wasn't ranked 19th Daniel Cota, ranked 489th in the World 20th David Long, wasn't ranked 21st Marlon Hayes, ranked 368th in the World 22nd Jesse Oltmanns, ranked 492th in the World 23rd Owen Beck, wasn't ranked 24th Kertson Manswell, ranked 310th in the World 25th Damon McCreary, ranked 357th in the World 26th Kelvin Price, wasn't ranked 27th Matthew Greer, ranked 325th in the World 28th Audley Harrison, ranked 136th in the World ☆☆☆ 29th Siarhei Liakhovich, ranked 43rd in the World, Siarhei Liakhovich was a blown up, washed up way past his Prime Cruiserweight.☆☆☆ 30th Nicolai Firtha, ranked 121nd in the World 31st Malik Scott, ranked 86th in the World 32nd Jason Gavern, ranked 194th in the World 33rd Bermane Stiverne, ranked 4th in the World (Although was only that false ranking due to an Arreola win, a free title and never beat a top 30 opponent) 34th Eric Molina, ranked 37th in the World 35th Johann Duhaupas, ranked 34th in the World 36th Artur Szpilka, ranked 24th in the World 37th Chris Arreola, ranked 43rd in the World 38th Gerald Washington ranked 41st in the World 39th Bermane Stiverne "UNRANKED" 40th Luis Ortiz - 48 years old I would also add what was Pacquiaos highest ever purse prior to fighting Mayweather?? vs how much he made that night? I would guess maybe 3 or 4 times his highest purse but Wilder wants 10x and AJ only gets maybe 2x. Tell me how that is fair? I do think though that boxing is losing its core with all this money talk, 60%/40% to AJ is fair or a flat $20million and just get the fight signed.

I am all for banning drug cheats but lets at least give Whyte time to present his side, I mean come on he insisted on the testing, paid for it out is own pocket and passed all the VADA testing. That really doesnt sound like someone taking PEDS, the Miller situation was different as he was forced to sign up as part of the deal and got caught pure and simple. If you pass all VADA tests but there is an issue on the UKAD side then this just highlights the need for a global set of standards and substances agreed across all the bodies in the sport. If this was him fighting was in the US under VADA he would have passed all the tests and been declared clean so there is something not right here. Lets also not forget in the US hardly any boxers undertake ANY testing at any level!!! It not like this was anything to do with Matchroom either the hearing was with UKAD, VADA results and UK anti doping panels so its not like this was swept under the carpet, it was an offical hearing and evidence was presented so at least judge a man after all the fact are out. If he is gulity then he gets banned I have no problem with that but at least give Whyte a chance before labelling him a cheat.

sorry maths is maybe not the best but you get what I'm saying there was probably more people watching the fight in the UK than the US you never seem to give fighters any credit from the UK and on all the forums try to make out that they never travel but either do US fighters, all they seem to bother about is money the Pac man knows what its all about and I really hope he comes to the UK so we can show you the kind of event that will dwarf anything the US has ever seen

OK, here in UK a Billion equals 100 Million whereas in the US it is 1,000 Million. What gives? US: (10 to Power of) 10 to the 1 = 10 10 to the 2 = 100 10 to the 3 = 1,000 (Thousand) 10 to the 6 = 1,000,000 (Million) 10 to the 9 = 1,000,000,000 (Billion) UK 10 to the 3 = 1,000 10 to the 6 = 1,000,000 (Million) 10 to the 8 = 100,000,000 (UK Billion) so my maths is shit but you get what am saying, if you worked out the amount of people watching the PPV in US as a percentage vs the population it would be pretty poor Thats all am saying man

Reading that artical I'm glad to hear that JT is willing to fight Carl but the only problem I have is that many American friends like to state the fact that many UK fighters dont travel, have only fought bums etc and the real action is in the US to a certain extent I can see that however much in the same way as people talk about Joe Calzaghe and Jones why should Carl have to go to north America??? he is the WBC champion with one of the most sought after belts, in my opinion like Roy Jones said "if you want to beat the man you got to come get the man" so if JT wants that belt why wont he come over to the UK and fight the champion for it??? or does that mean if he wont come to US he wont fight him?? So Jermain if you want it, come get it