King Floyd via TKO. King Floyd will have an easier time this time.
Floyd hasn't been in the ring in almost a decade. He ain't doing shiz. He's too smart to get in the ring with a fighter that's not injured this time and who's active.
No, you said this fight doesn't need much hype. I disagreed.
When Manny fights, they'll do the same promotions like the always do for Manny and it will generate sales.
Tyson was 30, prime time, 45-1, and got TKO'd by Holyfield and was losing again b4 Tyson got DQ in the 2nd fight. Lewis also beat Holyfield. You can say what you want about Lewis seeing a washed up Mike, but Mike was 49-3, and got an ass whipping against Holyfield and Lewis. Any version of Mike vs a prime Lewis is still very difficult matchup. I followed Mike all through his career and he was a beast but Lewis was a beast 2. He'd destroy Ruiz today.
That's crazy. THere's a reason why Spence spent days in ICU. He may not have had broken bones but it doesn't mean you couldn't have head trauma. We still haven't seen Spence after the crash.
Any half decent defensive fighter will expose this flaw. Trout did. Floyd really did. Lara did. Bivol really did.
Yeah, it was exposed but prior to Bivol, only 1 man was able to beat Canelo.
Bivol actually threw more punches despite his stellar defence.
I agree. I believe TC beats prime Pacquiao; though Prime Pacquiao was a featherweight.
Beat a prime pacquiao? Haha TC hasn't even fought a person in the same level as a Porter or any of the Garcias.
Yeah TC won by stoppage against Kavaliauskas but he didn't look good prior to the 9th. Crawford is not tested and has never fought against 1 hall of famer. Paq has fought legends into four decades. Not even Ali did that.
"Prime" Brandon Rios failed to make 135 and still refused to move up, when he finally did move up went life and death with a journeymen Mike Alvarado, then capped his career off by crying on TV after getting stopped by Timothy Bradley same Bradley he said had no punching power. Rios in his "prime" or otherwise was never a good fighter.
All I heard was Pac was old and got KO by Marquez and Rios and Garcia ridiculing Roach and how unlike Margarito, Rios was going to beat Pac because Pac lost it. So here we are today, Rios is retired, and trex Pac last fight beat an undefeated Thurman. Lol
TC could fight both Garcias, Thurman, Porter, and Spence all his age and he keeps calling an old Pac that has hands full as a senator for the fame and money. Not one fighter TC has fought is on the same level as those guys I first mentioned either, not to mention he got dropped by a no name boxer despite a win.
Smh... Canelo knows hes gonna win this fight i give him respect for giving Bivol props but hes not gonna lose to Bivol. Listen I'm not ever gonna say Canelo is not a good fighter because he is, but one thing alot of people can agree with is Canelo is in a time in boxing where the competition isn't top tier, so with that being said that's why no one currently will beat him. I by no means am a Canelo fan but that's just the reality of the situation in today's boxing landscape.
The competition isn't top tier? Bivol is a legitimate undefeated 175 champion with excellent range and size. Now Bivol has added Canelo to his undefeated record.
Let's cut to the chase. Face Garcia, let Crawford get rid of pac once and for all and then we get Crawford vs spence within a year. Everyone wins, we'd get the best fight that can be made in boxing, Garcia fades away in welterweight oblivion and pac fans weep as pac is forcefully retired.
Cut the chase. Spence goes after another belt and goes against pac. Arguable win over Porter and major accident odds...let's see if he's still champ.
Don't know about fulton but I'm not buying the whole 'monster power' talk from inoue, a strong gust of wind could have knocked down some of his opponents, a strong black American fighter wont go down like them bums inoue has been beating
That "a strong black American fighter " Fulton got KTFD. Good thing the ref stopped Fulton from getting even more FU.
None of that past history is going to stop Crawford from beating his ass. Just like it didn't help all the other legends greedy as **** sticking around for paydays until they got embarrassed throughout boxing history.
I never claimed TC was going to lose against Pac. TC has fought not one hall of famer and he's already 30. Not even a trilogy. Nobody to test. So your claim to Pacs fame is all you got. Facts.
Crawford will be the 2nd best fighter Manny faced in his entire career; a close second. Manny was younger than the #1 guy he faced and was completely ineffective. Bud will hurt him bad. Pac fans should not be clamoring for this fight.
I can name about 7 fighters that have had better careers than bud that fought pac. And that's not including Thurman, who prior to losing, easily had the better career than TC.
Rolly had better KO old man Pacquiao! If he doesn't, something is terribly wrong with boxing, even worse than I thought.
Vegas has Manny as the favorite over Rolly.
U can talk it to death but Spence won't see Crawford until after Oct 2021 once he signs with PBC. The thought of that fight is very exciting but this is a business. Also, do ur homework and you'll recognize my other points.
Spence ain't fighting Crawford even if Bud joins PBC. That's a fact until he proves us all wrong.
Looking forward to seeing that greedy old boxer get his ass kicked. Its a rite of passage for these old boxers that don't know when to call it quits still trying to make money off their name.
The old boxer was going to get ktfo against a prime Brandon Rios. Lmao
The declined of boxing is sad, and the blame game put on Mayweather is rubbish. The PBC or Mayweather ruined boxing yet we have the supposed greatest heavyweight champion of all time robbing a novice.
Boxing hasn't been as popular as the 80s but research from Two Circles in 21 support that among the gen z fans it's the 4th popular sport.
Big name fighters still make way way more money than any MMA fighter.
Anyone that knows anything about boxing knows Fury isn't the greatest heavy weight champion.
Mikey is a quality fighter. He can fight anyone but can't beat the best welters (Spence/Pac/Crawford). 147 is out of his range to dominate. Id personally like to see Porter vs Mikey. Winner takes Thurman. Crawford vs Spence too.
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And if Floyd fought Barrios today he will lose because he hasn't fought in almost a decade? Is that what you are saying?
That's not what I was saying. Many believe Pac beat Barrios including pro boxers. Manny would beat Floyd today.
But since you commented, yeah Mayweather would lose to Barrios today because he's been out of the ring for almost a decade and he's close to 50.
I doubt Floyd comes out of retirement. He's too smart to do that.
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So Manny beating an almost 50 year old Floyd would prove that Manny won the first fight?
When Floyd beat Manny, the story was Manny was past his prime and he had a shoulder injury. Ten years later if Manny was to beat Floyd, it would be a historic win and proof that Manny was not in his prime in 2015.
Since you mentioned pro boxers have stated that they believe Manny beat Barrios, a ton of the same pro boxers including Breadman have stated that Floyd would beat Rolly, Barrios and the other guy from the UK that has the IBF belt.
"So Manny beating an almost 50 year old Floyd would prove that Manny won the first fight?" Where did I say that Manny won the first fight? Reading comprehension isn't your strong suite. Why are you bringing in Rolly to our conversation? This thread is about Pac and Mayweather talks.
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You don't need to personify your responses. We can all do that and turn this into a curse-filled frenzy. No need for it.
When you say PAC can beat Floyd, you are suggesting that PAC would have beaten Floyd 10 years ago if it wasn't for whatever excuse we've heard. So let me rephrase my question - If PAC couldn't beat Floyd 10 years ago, how exactly can he beat Floyd today? Floyd is a gym rat and can beat the three current WW champs (except Brian Norman) if he was to train for them.
"When you say PAC can beat Floyd, you are suggesting that PAC would have beaten Floyd 10 years ago..."
Now you're putting words in my mouth. When I say, which is my opinion, that Pac would beat Mayweather today because Mayweather hasn't been active and I think money would lose today doesn't mean Manny would have beaten 10 years ago because of whatever excuse. Mayweather won 10 years ago.
And just because you think money is some gym rat doesn't mean he will be the same fighter as 10 years ago and would beat all these champions today. lol.
Can't blame him though if he wants an easy fight and a free belt... GrandPac can also be a good tuneup vs. Bud...
Like Thurman's easy old T-Rex arms tune-up. lol.
Of course it does right now. How else can a fight between them be hyped up?
It's Manny. Doesn't need much hype. Rolly has the belt and is the champ. Those in itself are big hypes.
If Pac really wanted a legacy fight he should have requested/demanded P4P #1 T Crawford..... we've all known for long time, nobody wants the T Crawford action!!
Pac signed the contract in the middle east and Crawford's team backed out.
Even so, you think Crawford is going to take a fight with 2 weeks notice? Lol. He'd get killed.
Open question: Is Pacquiao AVOIDING Spence or Crawford? Is it time for Pac to step up and fight them? They all hold 147 belts. Pac fought Thurman after Thurman looked terrible in tuneup after coming off 2yr layoff with shoulder injury. Algieri, Horn, Matysee,Vargas,Clotty,Rios were all C listers when Pac fought them.
Avoiding? We're talking about a man spanning 4 decades of boxing. He doesn't avoid anyone.
You can rag on Thurman all you want but he was still undefeated champ. Broner is a solid fighter as well and they both are still top fighters in their prime in the division.
Vargas only lost one fight and he's taller and bigger than Pac. Rios was fighting a Pac that was KO cold prior.
You wanna talk avoiding? Even as a huge fan of Erol, I'm disappointed he's cashing out and not signing to fight Bud. How you gonna talk Canelo when you haven't cleared the 147 division? That's BS.