I see there is alot of ignorant ppl commenting on pac being broke or has irs problems. First, how in the f*ck do you know his finances?? Are you his financial advisor? do you go to the same bank as him? c'mon use your common sense! Where is your proof? He has more than just two endorsements! He uses his OWN money for his senatorial seat. Not to mention he Was the second highest paid athlete in the world. He doesnt blow away his money like mayweather does. Dont you think he has other investments?? Second, He has given his countryman ALOT of money and DONATIONS! Gosh damn disrespectful haters LOL!
All he did was quote the bible. Manny can barely speak english, the media took his words out of context. Yea, manny shouldnt have opened his mouth but, doesnt everyone have an opinion!!!!???? you guys quick to judge but look at your own lives, are you a saint??? Are you a perfect person??? YOU dont sin everyday?????? All i see is ignorant HATERS in this thread! F*ck outta here!
Even Floyd senior thought his son fought like a vagina. How could he have won? After the fight interview on May 2.
Floyd Mayweather Sr. Says :
@ 1:50 mark Floyd senior said about floyd's time to retire: 'When you can't do what you use to do it's time.' referring to his son
He knew his son dont have it anymore lmao.. He saw his son fight like a vagina
Thank you spoon!!!!!!!! mayweather exposed!!!!!!!!!!!!! etaallday.c0m
despite all the controversy, i thought the fight between floyd and manny was the highest level technical fight ive ever seen! Thats why there should be a PAC vs MAY 2. No more shoulder injury and hopefully floyd will be watched for that IV. Al haymon hopefully wont pay off other fighters not to spar and train with pac. PAC beter watch out for spies in his camp! LOL
Referring to Floyd.
If pac was even HALF of the Sportsman as Floyd maybe he would've gotten a second chance, but his excuses and lies, and unsportsmanlike behavior doesnt warrant him getting another chance, unbiased people saw mayweather winning easily, the commentators from his (pac) own network who would've benefited from a pac victory, said he lost handily. He said he was prepared for anything floyd would bring to the ring, then complained about floyd's movement? He said he was 100% listed that on his paperwork but still wanted a shot of Toradol before the fight? We've seen boxers with shoulder injuries during a fight...at the very least they tell their cornerman or you can tell by them favoring the injured shoulder, he was still swinging away with the supposed "severely Torn rotator cuff" THEN SALT WATER CURES TORN ROTATOR CUFFS? Baseball players dont need all of the expensive surgeries that sideline them for years, they could comeback by the end of the season...He's a poor sport and a sore loser and a liar, ask his wife jenke (remember the kid he had OUT of wedlock with a HOOKER) talk about poor judgement, he didnt wear a condom with a HOOKER! HE JUST DUMB AS F*** for that:hail: but all of this paints a different picture of the man that pac REALLY is.Not to mention he's a lawbreaker, TAXES. He's not the guy his worshipers nor he claimed to be.:hail:
You sound DUMB AF!!!!! First of all do your MF research!!!!!!!!! 2 weeks prior to the fight manny aggrivated his shoulder during sparring. During those 2 weeks left heading towards fight night manny was only working on his left hand!!!!1 Theres an article about this on B*xingnews24 DOT COM!!!!!!! Now about the salt water comment, have you heard of being sarcastic????? One more thing, he torn his rotator cuff in the fourth round! Theres adrenaline going while your in a fight! You cant fake a SURGERY from a real doctor at a real hospital you idiot!!!!!
And at the end of the day, for fans who want "blood and guts" boxing, the most boring fighter of our current era (to some) made more money than any athlete in any sport for multiple years. A guy who danced and ran around the ring was the face of our sport for a decade.
How do you think he made his money? By lying to the boxing world and his fans!!!!!!!!!! Floyds legacy no matter what will always be questioned by his IV scandal!!!!! He made alot of money and changed the sport of boxing for the worst. Before, boxing used to be more about fighting for the championship. Now ever since mayweather turned into "Money Mayweather", the sport went to ****! fixed fights, fighters waiting till the money is right, or wont fight at all unless the dictated terms are met from the so called A side fighter!
"He's a scared little man, cant even walk his kids to school alone" - Mike Tyson on floyd
"Your fighting scared son" - Floyd Sr. to floyd jr. during may vs pac
F*ck how much money floyd has or made. I cant spend his money and you cant spend his money. I care about what happened to the sport of boxing!!! and what floyd did to it!!!!!!
I only give credit to Garcia for beating Khan and Matthysse! I actually thought he lost to or at the very least drew with Peterson. The rest of the champions he faced were wayyyyyyyyyy past their prime and should have been retired! Now hes cherry picking a nobody! If thurman was such a over hyped fighter, why didnt you just face him????? People like this, i do not respect and will not support their career by paying to see him fight!! F*ck Garcia!!!!!!!!
you call that a boss move. Fight will happen. Canelo never ducked. Just vacated to eliminate ggg status as mandatory and not be obligated to fight at the full mw. Isn't ggg team the ones that said anyone from 155-168 can get it? To my understanding anyone includes Canelo, but he said no to 155 though lol. Stop it sir I already schooled you on all this but you just stubborn ain't you?! Cheers anyway sir. Stop hating on boxing a biggest star! Lol
canelo didnt want to take any fight with GGG above 154!!!!!!!!! All of canelo's fights, he has the weight advantage because he rehydrates to 165 ish. Canelo is a true middle weight that wants to stay fighting at junior middle weight????????? I call that ducking!!!!!! Smart to hype up the fight, but you still ducking! also smart to see, being patient, to wait till GGG loses too!!!!! I can see this dragging out just like what happened with PAC vs MAY!!
I been saying this idiot has the worse camp around him totally phuking up his career and wasting his prime away. You 35 you can't sell any ppvs. HBO won't give you a ppv unless you fight canelo because of that. Manny was doing big ppv numbers on his own close to what Floyd was doing. You not doing ppvs close to canelo. You fight on regular HBO. This ain't a Floyd Manny situation. You the clear B side and the moment this phuking idiot figures that out the fight will get made. You don't dictate terms you either take it or waste more years fighting bums on regular HBO. Take a career payday if you win you can dictate terms going forward. Sounds like GGG don't think he can win and is just trying to cash himself out.
He cant get those PPV numbers simply because NO ONE wants to fight him! He's Knocking out everyone! Thats why GGG cant get a fight!!!!!! Even canelo not even in there challenging him for the 160lb title. Boxing is suppose to be about proving to be the best champion, not money!! Canelo a natural middle weight fighting as a junior middle weight at 154lbs????? Thats just rediculous!!!!!!!!Canelo wants to move up to 160lbs now after he vacated the title and wants to be A-side when GGG has been dominating the 160 division and is the current P4P champ???? Yall must be on the same DRUGS as DE LA HOYA!!!!!!!
Sorry off topic but had to share HAHAHAHA!!!!! Canelo vs Smith PPV only made alittle over 250,000! Canelo fans please refrain from using A-side excuse with PPV numbers like that! I advise you fans to encourage GGG vs Canelo!
On the topic:
How in the F*ck do you vacate a belt @ 160lb and become ring magazine's 160lb belt champion????? all i can say is sus!!!!!!!!!!!
Didn't watch the fight but judging by everyone saying it was close Cuadras should've won. Whatever happened to you gotta take the belt from the champion?
Okay I finished watching the fight:
I shouldn't have watched this fight. I was already pissed at these GGG fans suddenly not wanting the Jacobs fight. Now I'm pissed at this robbery. I wanna say 8-4 but i can clearly see 7-5 Cuadras. A draw would be generous to Gonzalez. Gonzalez aggression was ineffective. If his aggression was effective why was Cuadras still able to move as well in the 12th as he did in the 1st? I saw a lot of coming forward swinging and missing from Gonzalez and Cuadras would catch him with two or three punches and back out and reset while Gonzalez is left swinging and missing. Gonzalez is missing so bad he's spinning himself around. I also see Gonzalez being swayed from side to side by shots that's hitting his gloves. He caught Cuadras with some good shots square but they didn't have an effect because Cuadras was still throwing and moving. He didn't slow Cuadras down the whole fight. That's why his aggression shouldn't count as effective aggression. They may look like big shots but they aren't having as much an impact as they seem. He dominated the latter half of the fight. Lederman's scorecard was atrocious. I hear Max and Roy say Gonzalez lands a great body shot but Cuadras doesn't stop moving. I see Cuadras land a body shot and Gonzalez clams up.
Amen!!!! agreed!!! compubox and commentating rigged!!! There was no way in hell gonzales threw more punches. I did NOT see effective aggressiveness with gonzales, yea he was backing cuadras back, but did not connect alot of his punches.... As you can see both of their faces post fight. #delusional fans
Despite floyd taking an illegal use of IV, Al Haymon paying other fighters not to train and spar with manny, had a spy in manny's camp, and manny had only ONE GOOD ARM, I thought it was a good, expensive, chest match!!! VERY TECHNICAL FIGHT by 2 of the best in the sport. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAY VS PAC 2 w/o the cheating and the injury!!!!! Plain and simple!!!!!!!!
Larry was correct, Mayweather did out box him! Everyone knew what Mayweather's game plan was, except maybe Freddie Roach:
Let me clear this up.... First off, mayweather did not outbox manny! Who got hurt more in that fight???? It sure wasnt manny that got hurt, tucking into a shell against the rope a couple of times!!! In fact manny was NEVER hurt by any shot by mayweather, that threw 62% of punches were jabs! a fight is judged by the following:
1. Clean power punching - manny
2. Effective Aggressiveness - manny
3. Ring generalship - floyd
4. Defense - floyd
The fight, in my opinion, looked like a DRAW! But to say floyd out boxed manny is just Crazy. Their fight was the most technical boxing match ive ever seen. Thats why they are the TOP dogs of the sport!!!!!! I enjoyed it and i hope they fight again without the Shoulder and IV scandals!!!!!!
These are the facts i gathered from manny's shoulder excuse:
1. 2 weeks prior before the fight had taken place, freddy said in an article on ************, that "we are not gunna spar the last 2 weeks, we are just going to work on manny's left hand"!!!!
2. Fight night, why would manny ask for a cortizone shot BEFORE the fight?
3. How can you stage a fake operation from a REAL DR at a REAL HOSPITAL?
IDK but im still not convinced, if manny got paid and was told to say that shoulder excuse, here are facts that go with it:
1. Why did he stop punching floyd when he got caught with a big shot and was on the ropes getting hammered? If a person runs alot and is hard to hit, the ropes is where you want to try and takeout your opponent right???
2. How in the f*ck are you able to still throw and raise your right arm if you so called torn your rotator cuff??
Now on to floyd's IV scandal:
1. Why and how on God's green earth do you get a TUE granted 18 days AFTER the fight????
2. Why do you need an IV in the first place and why wasnt it administered by a doctor? He had someone from his team give it to him!
3. To "supposedly" rehydrate, you only need 50ml of saline and thats the only amount thats allowed to be taken! BUT floyd used 750ml of the vitamins and saline and that has been proven to mask or dilute other substances that was taken!!!! You dont need a 700ml IV! Why take it?? No excuses on that!!!!
The verdict is, this fight was staged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did anyone forget that terrence crawford said manny would have to come down to 140 to fight him????????? c'mon man, i see alot of ignorance in these forums, But damn, do you gotta hate too??!!! Instead of posting something dumb, do your research first....... Also how in the f*ck is manny ducking crawford when manny is A-side and should determind the fight details??? When you stop fighting and training for 5-6 months you gain your weight back. manny walks around at 152 ish i believe and is hella busy being a senator. Dont you think that he would have a hard time training and loosing that much weight being that busy when he still has another job to do???? MORONS!!!!!!
I think the fight would be even better than the first one! It was high level technical match with counters. Now that manny's shoulder is healed and people will be aware of that IV usage, i think the fight would be alot better! Are you guys scared for mayweather that much! If they fight, you dont have to pay for it and watch it. No body forcing you! Let them rematch! If you think floyd would win again, lets see, without the bull**** cheating and shoulder injury!
Some more F*cktards! its ok for mayweather to make his money fighting a bum like berto but when pac still wants to fight for money hes broke????? You floyd fans have me weak AF!!!!!!! HELLA DELUSIONAL!!!!! Do you guys remember floyd telling broner "its about the least amount of risk, for the highest reward"!!!!!! thats stated by your so called hero!!!!! The person that lies the MOST IS MAYWEATHER!!!!!! You guys dont want to talk about the IV and TUE granted 18 MF days after the fight, talking about cheating!!!!!!! I think not so shut the f*ck up about pac being broke and a cheater!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!
There's no guarantee Canelo will rematch him if GGG dominates him. Anyway no sane fighter or promoter is going to give up tens of millions of dollars just to appease haters on the internet. GGG will offer fair terms as always and if Canelo stops ducking him, Canelo will agree to fair terms and they will fight each other. This is like when Flom0s said Pacquiao should just take the flat $40 mil. No, just because one fighter is ducking doesn't put the responsibility on the other fighter to just give in to ridiculous demands to appease a ducking fighter.
As boxing fans we need to reorient the way we think a little bit and get back to reality. Start blaming the ducking fighters, not the ones being ducked. If Canelo makes GGG a lowball offer, we can't blame GGG for not taking the lowball offer, we need to blame Canelo for making lowball offers designed to keep the fight from happening.
In short, when one fighter clearly wants the fight, and one fighter clearly does everything possible to avoid the fight, we need to blame the fighter who is doing everything possible to avoid the fight. Until he fights GGG, Team Canelo deserves all the blame, as has already been established when he said he would fight GGG after Cotto, but fought Khan instead, then said he would fight GGG after Khan, but dropped the belt instead. That's already two clear ducks so that's where the blame lies.
GGG to his credit is now chasing after someone potentially more dangerous than Canelo, in Danny Jacobs. Canelo ducks him so he just moves on to an even bigger threat, always willing to face the best guys who will face him. That's to be commended.
Simply Agreed!!!!! I have no clue how fans cannot see how Golden Boy dragging this thing out! O and one more thing, you canelo fans need to STOP saying GGG need to move up and fight the winner of kovelov and ward. NO, GGG and Canelo need to fight first!!!!!!!
What gets me laughing every time is the kind of morons on this site! Why do you watch the sport of boxing?? Its for the entertainment right???? What is entertaining about mayweather fighting scared and taking NO RISKS????? He has more people paying to see him lose than actual floyd fans pay to see him win!!!! The point im making is yeah, mayweather is a good boxer, "hit and not get hit back", that sounds good if you were in an actual street fight BUT, we are talking about the SPORT OF BOXING, where us fans pay to see entertainment. Warrior vs warrior, both trying to knock eachothers heads off earning the money we pay to be entertained!!!! PLAIN AND f*cking SIMPLE!!!!!