If pacquiao was on steroids he would agree to fight anybody at 147. But instead he fought Cotto at 145 and he wanted to fight Mosely at 142. It's obvious he doesn't think he's invincible. Mayweather Sr. has a pretty big ego, so for his fighter (Hatton) to lose so convincingly he went on blaming Pac on steroids. Lets all believe the crackhead people.
What is all this about "punch resistance". I've heard of fighters not being able to pull the trigger, fighter losing speed, losing stamina, slower reflexes etc. but punch resistance? I've seen fighters take a lot more punishment than Ricky has and still have solid chins throughout their career losing a step or two before they lose "punch resistance". Look at Ali, Fraizer, Leonard, Hearns. They fought long into their careers without losing "punch resistance". They lost a step, their reflexes slowed but "punch resistance". Common now.
He lost punch resistance because God forbid its Manny Pacquiao that knocked him out. Manny Pacquiao has no power blah blah blah, he has no skills blah blah blah. Oscar was shot, Morales was shot, Barrera was shot. Boxing scene will never give credit to Manny Pacquiao too many anti pac boxing enthusiasts here.
I was watching Manny since 2001 vs. Ledwaba and by no means his road to the top was easy. Its funny they say Manny Pacquiao was fighting old and shot fighters when those fighters were the ones calling him out. So with Manny knocking out his recent opponent, obviously to boxing experts eyes, Hatton was/is a bum at 140lbs.
Cotto only had to go down 2 lbs with Pac going up 5 lbs???? 145 was fair and square. Cotto started at 140 lbs, Pac started at 106 lbs. Cotto looked healthy and fast. He just got worned down as the fight went on.
Yes anybody can see that. Pac just fought a live welterweight that Mayweather refused to fight. Mayweather fought ummm....a 135 lber. Mayweather P4P for sure :bottle:
Floyd has been fighting in the welterweight division since 2005. How many times did he fight the top Welterweights??? Zero! He asked JMM to move up to 147! haha Mayweather ducker.
Equinox all of your posts are all Pacquiao hating threads. Its obvious you hate the guy. Dont watch boxing then! Sheez, you go out of your way so much on fights he already won and gained credibility for. He's #1 P4P! get over it!
Versus DLH that was the first time Manny went up to 147. He was very cautious of DLH and was just boxing him not trying to knock him out. If you watch that fight again Pacquiao let DLH go multiple times when he couldve knocked him out but respected DLH power. Why are people surprised?
Versus Hatton he can go toe to toe since Hatton is a blundering idiot with his hands down and face forward.
Versus Cotto he had to fight power with power if he didnt Cotto wouldve pushed him around. So Manny on steroids??? Can't believe people can believe a trainer that is cracked out himself.
I think it would've went something like this:
Haha good one. Except Floyd hasnt knocked anybody out in years. Nor did he knocked out the 135 lb Marquez who he asked to move up like 2 weight classes.
Yes Carlos Baldomir haha. FLoyd didn't want to fight Mosely cuz Mosely had 5 losses but he chose to fight Baldomir who had 9 losses at the time. Must of got some crack from his uncle and his dad when he said that.
How do you figure that? Pacquio is no faster or stronger then he was last year when he fought JMM... It may seem like he's faster fighting a ODLH who wasnt moving at all or stronger hitting someone clean coming straight at you with their hands down... But nope, same Pacquio as last year... And JMM will give him all kinds of problems just like before if they fought again
130 lb Pacquiao isn't stronger than 140-147lb Pacquiao. Wow you haven't watched any of his recent fights. Ok, obviously beating legends doesn't make you P4P right. Keep discrediting Pacquiao because if its so easy everyone can be P4P.
Fanny Pac didn't accept the challenge bitch.
Wow the ever dying hate that you have on Pacquiao. What did he ever did to you? You must be a Floyd dickrider who is jealous of the fame he is getting.
I'm not discreding Pacquio I'm just saying I havnt seen any huge improvment from within the last year span in my opinion... I dont think he's much stronger or bigger, he came in for his 130 fight with JMM last year on fight day at 145 pounds and he came in against Hatton if i can recall I believe 149 so he's pretty much the same size going up two weight classes... He has the same speed as he had last year as well... So what exactly is the improvement he has had in the last twelve months? It's not like he showcased some new skill that he didnt have last year against De La Hoya or Hatton? The same Pacquio from 08 would of did that to Hatton as well... Yes Pacquio has improved tremendously over his career but his last two fights havnt showcased to me these "stronger, faster, more skilled" attribues you are speaking of
His footwork, his in and out. His punches thrown in difficult angles. His timing of his punches. He doesn't just go all out and throw punches. He throws his punches wisely and hardly gets hit now. Even if we say De La Hoya was shot, he didn't even have a chance to hit him. Hatton was the lineal champion, Pacquiao timed him coming in perfectly. So you can say that Pacquiao knocked Hatton out on a counter punch. Still can't see the improvement?
Im a fan of pbf but 'pbf creates his own lane'??????
im sick of this bashing both these fighters,both are great in their own right and deserve the credit they get.(although they get critized more than any other boxers,mainly by rival fans...)
If ur gona start discrediting pacmans resume u can do the exact same to mayweather's,
Judah lost before he fought mayweather,hatton in my opinion lost to collazo b4 mayweather,mitchell lost b4 mayweather fought him..etc I can go on and I can do the same for pacquaio,marquez beating him,morales over the hill..etc but wot will this prove???
your not a fan your just so blind with your love of a fighter that you do not apreciate different style of fighters,styles are wot making boxing a great sport.
Pacquaio may not have mayweathers skill but he has something mayweather will never possess and that is heart and explosivness,mayweather wont take risk's.he's afraid of losing his '0'.....he doesnt take fights he thinks there is a chance of him losing he waits to find weakness in fighters and then exploits them,I respect this....he uses his boxing intelligencen which is part of the sport....
I wish eveybody would stop bitching no matter wot either of these fighters do or fight they will get discredited,getting beyond a joke at this stage....
You sir deserve a silver dollar. You said the smartest thing anybody will ever say here on this thread.
I give props to Marquez, he is a great fighter but he has to stop obsessing over Pac. It burns him up so much that everybody in the boxing world can see how much a crybaby he is. He had his chance, he declined the first rematch to fight Chris John. Now he's crying a river for another rematch. It should happen but dont whine and cry about it.