jeff lacy vs joe calzage, changed the game on how intimadating fighters can get their ass whooped. also shannon briggs vs v. klitskcho as far as who deserved it, im a have to say ummm probably magarito vs. mosley.... shane beat that ass after the scandal broke i never completely forgave margarito for what he did to cotto (cheating in all) looking forward to the rematch btw.
He's obviously past his best.
He's on his last run,first loss and he's out.
But is this brain issue for real?Cuz I've never heard anything concrete on it.
yea against abraham when he was knocked unconscious it was later revealed he had blood on his brain
since when is throwing a solid jab winning a fight you idiot. those jabs were not solid either, and the vast majority of them were hitting pac on the gloves. whenever bradley got hit with a power shot (which was at least 2-3 each round) he clearly felt it, backed up, and stopped trying to trade. you people that say it was an even fight make me sick and are a disgrace to the boxing world.
i am not a pac fan, i am fully confident that floyd would beat him if they fought at this point in their careers (i think pac would have been too much at the time he beat DLH and Hatton). but cmon man give him the credit he deserves he won the fight clearly, it was not close. if you give bradley every swing round it was 8-4 pac, but most people and me included felt pac still won those close rounds and it was 10-2
I never said either fighter won the fight, its just to simply close to call, would i did post is who would win the rematch convivncingly. I can only honestly score the first 5 rounds giving one 1 - 3 for bradley and 4-5 pac..... i never said bradley landed the jab all night, i just said he stayed consistent with it for 12 rounds unlike pac...... uve been listening to too much lampley and merchant...... those last minute wild flurries like roach teaches khan and pac thats gets YOU and the crowd off aint winning fights no more..... bradley stayed consistent with the jab, made adjustments on bum injured ankles, and stayed aggressive.... u sound like a pac fan, u are a pacfan, whether u like it or not u MAN got outboxed :bottle:
Can't understand how sour graping fans keep saying Pacman stops Bradley in a rematch when Pac couldn't even do it against an injured Bradley. Bradley was actually doing the better work in the second part of the fight. Bradley obviously adapted and considering how he was the one adapting in the second half, I feel Bradley has Manny's number, just like Marquez.
Exactly! Ive been trying to explain that to these fools in a decent manner....however some of these clowns havent finish their GED yet. Their cheap as*** must of watched the fight from a buffalo wild wings parking lot in a borrowed car with tinted windows.
Manny is one of the baddest mother****ers of all time, one of the best singers and one of the best fighters you've ever seen. now hold my drink, *****.
best singers hun, i bet u went copped the album too, probably role around jammin on it wit cha gal..... ur points to post ratio.... and ur bet record speaks for itself..... u need to check wuts in ur drink.....
what a load of BS.....Bradley got his ass kicked.
neither fighter got their ass kicked dude, what are u saying, what are u seeing.... its hard to say who even won.... all im implying is that bradley hung in there with an supposedly a class fighter on a bum "set" of ankles and out worked him, adjusting to his stlye in the later rounds, throwing a solid jab.... u talking a bunch of :bs2:
The gap in skill between Pavlik & Dawson is substantial.
The gap in skill between Dawson and Pascal was supstantial too, but Dawson took a convincing L. B Hop beats pascal, Dawson beats B Hop, question is whos better Pascal or Pavlik = Pavlik vs Dawson.... Maybe
Stopped taking the tread serious at the "maybe", to B-Hop.
U think b hop a school him again????? I dont know,,, i think nasim and b-hop put together a heck of a stragety that fight, but I didnt like the way b-hop looked against dawson.... must be the shoulder seperation, r father time. I think a hungry motivated smeeggaled Pavlik and an older B Hop could be interesting..!
pavlik's got the potential to knock any of those men out.
that being said, there are also guys on that list who he literally could not touch
dawson and ward would literally not have a mark on them.
andre ward fights more like bernard hopkins than any other active fighter. kelly hardly touched hopkins when they fought.
i have no interest in seeing a hopkins rematch. if hopkins loses it's only because he's almost 50. we saw that fight already, and kelly doesnt belong in the same sentence as hopkins.
it would literally be nothing other than the age of hopkins that won kelly the fight.
Agreed!! well put, not 100 % sold on dawson tho
LMAO bragging about Floyds money:rofl::rofl:. I know there is no name calling allowed but damn
Money is the issue regarding the latest threads between these two (PAC and Floyd)...... Im guessing where you from they fight over women and who got their GED first!
It's 10:46pm over here, I well aware of what working is.
Maybe it's because you Americans post failed links on boxing forums at work that your economy is in shambles. It's not Sweden who's got a national debt of $17 trillion which is going up rapidly by the minute, and an entire economy that's on life support by the Federal reserve.
Also, no one on this board truly knows the situation. And stop saying you don't like what it seems is happening to Manny atm. You're absolutely thrilled.
Floyd turned down 50 or 65 or whatever it was, that he was offered after Manny declined the $40mil offer.
LMAO!!!Say what you will, but the day I leave the AMERICAN economy to come work in the sweden farm labor force is the day I turn down 40 mil not to fight 36 minutes. Our econonmy has picked up last I checked....survived two depressions and several world wars. Your **** hole 100 acre country economy couldn't survive a hurricane :usa2:
You seem very educated my friend. :)
The farm labor force seems to be doing quite well: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-07-03/switzerland-sweden-are-world-s-most-innovative-countries
Define "picking up", pls lmfao. The Federal Reserve still keeps the economy on life support with QE3 in full force and an interest rate of 0,25% or whatever. And although it was an improvement the government overspent by $6-700 billion in 2013. Yeah, you sure seem to be doing great.
You seem obsessed with someone turning down $40mil for a fight. What about those that turn down $50mil or $65mil? They must be REAAAALLY stupid, right?
ROTFL!!!You must be smoking that sweedish crack and eating sweedish meatballs at the same time; 1st you insist on refering to the American economy from 2011 on down, get out of the past (plus your #'s are flawed !!! you keep talking money on a global scale when it has no real value when we both know its about natural resouces and military (neither of which you have)
On to boxing : yes im am obsessed with someone turning down 40 mil for 36 min to fight; its stupid, thats 1 mil + per rd (ur a #'s guy right?) That would have made pac that highest garauntee'd paycheck in boxing history!
Well, obviously you don't.
Urban dictionary tells me that "toom" means fat man in a wheelchair btw.
Its a qoute from a movie stupid; i screwed up posting the link cause im at work.... something we do for a living in the U.S.
Btw: Pac should of took that money giving his current situation; who turns down 40 mil thats in there right mind.
From 2011 on down? The deficit started piling up long before that, the interest was low before that and the federal reserve started buying before that..
Which number is inaccurate?
The deficit?
http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/30/news/economy/deficit-2013-treasury/
-$680 billion. I said $6-700.
Interest rate?
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/interest-rate
-0.25%. I said 0.25%.
Again, which numbers are inaccurate?
Money on a global scale? I'm talking about the US economy.
Actually Sweden is quite rich in minerals for example (if you by "you" mean Sweden.)
Ok, so it's stupid to turn down $40mil for a 36minute fight. Now how about turning down $50mil or $65mil? How freakin' stupid do you reckon one would have to be to do that?
http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/84223.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/floyd-mayweather-turns-down-new-offer-of-65-million-to-fight-manny-pacquiao
Even though you're obviously not a numbers guy that's almost $2mil/min.
I clearly see arguing (debating) with you sweedish peeps is pointless...I saw your little link you posted that your so proud of (lol) your little innovative bloomberg award (lol) we are so proud you guys stepping into the 21 century in all... so run your little country on your little minerals....and your great affordable health care at that unbelieve-able skyrocketing tax rate...... Meanwhile Manny's broke, Floyd has millions by the Hundreds and AMERICA is where I was BORN and RAISED and where u want to be. END of Story!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKFlhczTPUw&feature=related
well? :boxing::argue:
cotto is finished homie, matter of fact I'm not excited about this fight at all....margarito washed up and so is cotto...jmm would destroy him
To be honest I think he is taking it way more serious and personal than Manny. This is the fight HE wanted so bad for so long. No matter how nice and good Marquez is outside of the ring you know once he steps inside the ring he is a warrior and brings war. I honesty cannot wait for this fight.
I'm dying for the 24/7 too!
agreed...i'm still in awe from the Likar Ramos fight
if i give you points will you stop making threads? come on homie my threads aint dat bad!!!!!!!!!!!
I see it like 60-40 in Pacquiaos favor. BUT LISTEN TO ME if Marquez MOVES, throws combinations and keeps moving it will be quite the interesting fight and Marquez has the tools, skills and talent to do that. I honestly expect a very competitive technical fight with glimpses of war every now and then.
It all depends on this: Can Marquez take and sustain Pacquiaos power? If I was Marquez I would be throwing cement blocs at my face or using monk strategies of hitting your face with sticks to strenghten it and prepare it for anything.
yea youre right realistcly i would say 60/40 pac too
Cosign and agree with this. Roy was never same after the drop down in weight; the damage was done killing his body to get back down for the first Tarver fight. All his key attributes (speed & reflexes) diminished, RJJ no longer had the cat like reaction time which we saw him do time and time again prior to the move to HW.
all this makes perfect sense no doubt.... my arguement is manny...he has jump around in weight....u saying if he drops down a division he gets 2nd rd ko'd by a no name bum like tarver..... why didn't tarver ko roy there first fight? roy biggest prob was roy's ego.....
You mean 360 right?
nah I had it right the first time homie...180 means the opposite of ur current direction...in geometry its considered a straight line, half of that is 90, that is consider a right triangle.... 360 is considered a circle which means roy would have fell off and circled his career back to dominance which he clearly hasn't done.....k..... k. (highschool 101)
Yea I agree,,, with floyd and pac constanly being asked about each other during their fights... but khan just volunteer these verbal rants.... constanly mentioning floyds and bradley's name..... I promise there's an article everyday on box-S where he's got something to say bout floyd and tim!!!!!!!!! Better focus on peterson
u have a 90% knockout ratio vs a 100 % knockout ratio, bottom line as my man Jack said studderingly in "Harlem Nights" "somebody ggggggeeeetting knock ttthe fff****out"