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Duran was a very good WW boxer but Leonard made him give up. Fast forward to today and challenging Spence is an awesome feat to conquer if he is successful. Mikey is only 30 years young. That said, he should fight the likes of Loma in the same weight class first and then go up. However, Mikey is in a hurry to win big or lose badly. I believe Pacquiao is the only boxer to move up and DOMINATE from 112 to 154. Mikey is trying to match or pass PAC. To me, fight PAC (@40 yrs old) and we'll see...Prove me wrong Mikey!!!!

All were good opinions; however, Manny is in a league of his own. 1. The only 8 Div Champ 2. The only 5 Lineal Champ in 5 different weight classes 3. Beats a young, undefeated, ranked top 3 and WBA welterweight Champion (before July 20th) 4. 40+ yrs old (young) ��

PACQUIAO deserves all of the accolades. PAC achieved what all boxers dream of. He can choose anyone or he can clearly retire on top and no one will speak ill of him....

I'm not picking Manny. I simply cannot see it. And anyone who really analyzed the Lucas, Horn and Broner fights will see it too. It's always been the case though. There are two things that Manny Pacquiao can't deal with: a high, accurate work rate (Morales 1, Bradley II, three of the four Marquez fights, Horn) meaning a guy who isn't afraid to take risks and throw on him, and a fighter that moves as well as or better than him (Bradley, Marquez, Mayweather). Manny Pacquiao looks absolutely stellar against guys who (A) stand in front of him (Clottey, Oscar, Barrera, Margacheato, Rios, Cotto, Hatton) and/or (B) who are afraid to take real risks and throw on him (Broner, Mosley, Lucas, Algieri). Manny Pacquiao throws the same pre-set punch in hopes to nail a combo of 3-4 of that first shot. Horn showed the blueprint to nullifying it by moving to the side whether Manny lands that shot or not, then you see Manny continue like a robot in the old direction with the other punches and can counter him. Keith Thurman is taller, rangier and uses those in every fight he's in. He's not afraid to go to war, but he's a smart mover and that was on full display against Lopez despite him getting hit. The only outcomes I see, as I said, are (A) a controversial draw to set up a rematch, where one guy clearly won, or (B) a Thurman decision. Well, that is your assessment of PAC and I respect that; however, Pacquiao is a unique fighter and I see PAC attacking at 45* degree angles, moving in and out. Also, I believe PAC wants Thurman to come in so he can use the right hook and follow up with the uppercut. All I can say is wait and see!!! Quoting Mike Tyson, "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth."

Pacquiao fights whoever he wants and nobody will turn him down. Exactly!!!! Lol, PAC is too old?!!!! This is funny. I see Pac-Man knocking Thurman out or winning unanimously!!!!!

This will be the end of a legendary career. I fear for Pacquiao’s long term health but maybe this is the only way he will quit. I think he deserved to go out on his feet not backside but his attitude is what got him fighting in the first place. I agree but as a fan I hope PAC prevails!!!

Why not just go the Canelo route and beat a "regular" world title holder and claim "champion in x divisions"? Yeah right! He has no chance. All the welterweights will beat him especially Pacquiao, Crawford, Thurman and Porter.

crawford also whoops pacroids @ss! We're talking about Thurman!!

What excuse will you use when Manny loses, this aint a washed up Lucas M taking a dive. There are no excuses from me. I would pay for that fight, but I think money would be an issue and Manny is on the "A" side...

It's funny how he gradually changed his tune from talking smack to PAC and then feeling demoralized. Manny retire this guy already!!!

I completely agree with you! I just hope PAC can pull it off and school this kid!!! I can't believe PAC is his age and still producing, CRAZY!!!

Never boxed pro, but despite how the adrenaline rush feels, after making that first million dollars, I'd have been out the game, start up a business and invest. It's not about losing, it's who you lost to. There'd be no shame losing to Thurman. None. But it should mark his retirement. That's an excuse. He lost to a teacher in Horn. On the record. He lost to Bradley. On the record. He lost to Floyd. On the record. Etc etc etc. All of his losses matter. It doesn't matter if there's controversy. A loss is a loss and he should retire. All the Greats have losses!!!! All have to remember PAC is the only 8 time world champion in 8 different weight classes. Also, a 5 lineal champion in 5 different classes. SO, regardless what you THINK, Pacquiao is a living legend.

Sounds like someone didn't watch Broner/Porter. Or Ward/Kov 2. And yes, I got the "warnings". Question is how long did it take to get to that point? Manny wouldn't last that damn long and you know it. Right!!!! 😆

Thurman is SCARED and is going to get a rude awakening on July 20th!!!!

So by reading the whole thread, Pacman will be juiced to the gills and poor Keith is gonna get demolished because he will be clean lol. Pac did Vada against Broner in his last fight didn't he? Thurman is the one coming off mulitple injuries and looking lackluster in his comeback. Maybe he's the one the suspicious eye should be directed toward. Just sayin....... You are absolutely right!!!!

PAC fans still believe that BS scurred of needles... SMH I always knew he had the dumbest fans on the planet. You can call us anything but not dumb!!!! Go PAC!!!!

If this version of Pacquiao shows up. It's over for Thurman. @ 6:19 - 6:50 It's over!!!

40 year old Pacquiao has better footwork than prime Loma ?? LOL ! We all have opinions so be respectful to all who have them. First, PAC is a better fighter overall. Especially when PAC is in his prime. NO DOUBT!!!!! With that said, PAC IMO would beat Loma at 140 & 147..Idk at 135,that's too light for PAC. He would lose power!!! But Loma doesn't want to fight PAC at 140 only at 135, he knows he will get KO'd by PAC at 140 (scared even@39yrs). If Loma wants to be great he should go up in weight to fight the top fighters like Mikey. Finally, PAC has way better footwork than Loma. That's my opinion!!!!!

PACQUIAO is a LIVING LEGEND and an aging fighter that has nothing to prove but himself. Especially the unanimous win over Thurman was Awesome. That aside, if Porter wins against Spence, Manny will definitely fight Shawn. IMO Manny can choose ANYONE to fight and he deserves that. Spence should fight Crawford, if he wins against Porter and PAC should take on the winner of that fight. Win or lose, Manny should retire. Hopefully on top with a BIG WIN!!!

Pacman is also a lightweight fighting welterweights. At 40 he should retire or go down to140 before he gets hurt by Spence? Pacquiao would destroy Mikey!!! Probably knock him out he has way more power than Mikey!!! Mikey is too slow does not have enough power and his footwork is not as good or not even close to Pacquiao's. Mikey is trying to be a Mexican Pacquiao!!!LOL

Mikey is good but overrated IMHO. Mikey is delusional! After every round Mikey raised his hand like he won that round. Wow! He's thinking like Broner or he knows he lost Badly!!!

no surprise pac ducking spence lmao[/QUOTE I sure wasn't!!! PAC doesn't need that fight....But Spence does,LOL

————- So basically what you are saying is that Brandon Rios who had just lost to Alvarado deserved a fight with PAC? Also Broner who had a loss and a draw deserved a fight with PAC? Clottey had lost to Cotto and he deserved a fight too? Margarito had been KI’d by Mosley; that was good too? Mathysse had lost to Garcia and was rebuilding against journeymen deserved a fight with PAC? You guys are unbelievable!! Granted however Danny should fight boxers his own age and stop picking on the old man lol.

Pacquiao is going to punish Thurman for trash talking. Especially the crucifying statement. I can't wait!!!!

Its early so dont you worry about that!!!! Manny will persevere.........

Sparring partners are there to simulate your opponent and train in the closest environment to the fight as possible. Regardless if they are bums, cab drivers, etc., it's preparation to reach that goal. I would llke to mention that you cannot take away all the accolades, titles and achievements from a man that came from nothing. Especially from a living legend, Manny "PACMAN" Pacquiao.

Nonsense!! PAC fighting SPENCE is the biggest grossing fight at 147. They both have belts also. Stay focused lil buddy! 👍💪 I agree 100%

Tough fight for PAC at this stage of his career but PAC still got enough in the tank going off his Thurman performance tho. Dude is like 41 bro, yeezus Christ. I completely agree with you! I just hope PAC can pull it off and school this kid!!! I can't believe PAC is still producing at his age, CRAZY!!!

Haymon and Arum will be forced to pay far, far more then either will make from the fight. That said both know the fighter that beats Manny will also steal some of his attraction and negotiating power. The problems are two fold, the expense and if Manny beats either it will be a dark day for either PBC or TR.[/QUOTE I completely agree with you. Especially, especially if Manny beats either one. Your're right, I don't think they want to take that risk.

I've forgot more about boxing than you will ever know dipstick. No one wants to see Manny fight Spence or Crawford because they feel sorry for him, is that it? What a crock. He can't fight no-hopers and keep the belt hostage. Retire. Danny Garcia is a tough fight for him too. If not Spence next, hope he rematches Thurman or fights Garcia. Mikey Garcia would be a good fight for him too if he is afraid of Spence. PAC BEATS Thurman and everyone is SAYING oh Thurman is damaged goods. What A JOKE!!! Thurman is/was an undefeated YOUNG CHAMPION AND PAC WON CONVINCINGLY...PAC is 40yrs old. That alone demands respect!!! I guess you are a millennial??!! FIGURES.... PAC would have schooled both of them in his prime. AT THE SAME TIME, IF THEY WOULD HAVE FOUGHT AND PAC BEATS SPENCE, I WOULD BE LAUGHING AND ALL THE HATERS WOULD SAY IT WAS FIXED, AND COME UP WITH EXCUSES, EXCUSES AND MORE EXCUSES.. LOL....