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Benny L and the ONLY Sugar Ray LukahnLi, Yeah, I was...I thot hitting the "quik reply" button next to your post on page 4 would put it where it belonged...sorry bout that...but thanks a lot, again, for exhibiting some perspective...seems all the posters here grew up listening to their dad's "stories" about Ali and RL (notice I never put an "S" where it doesn't belong)...as if they were goddam Spiderman and Batman...btw, pre-suspension Ali belongs on most of these lists but to mention RL is an insult to guys who fought full-time and actually dominated their divisions for years...after Hearns ended his career in '82, he was just a part-time puller of media stunts...imagine what Armstrong woulda' done to that poser

BTW, in contrast to American football...7-man-Rugby rocks...one 7-minute half is like a weekly NFL highlight reel run at NHL speed...all without pussy padding and "managing the clock" horseshit...full-throttle "game on" from start to finish

I liked it too, mosley...had a "sweet spot" feeling too it...so I made it my quote...and just had to share it over on the "What do you guys think of _____Ray Leonard" thread... BTW, anyone else here who just CANNOT bring themselves to pin a badge that just ain't deserved...despite all the "super hero"-like bedtime stories, this guy NEVER convincingly dominated ANY weightclass for ANY extended period(in the same way that, say, Duran/Pedrosa/Hagler/Pryor/Arguello/Sanchez/Whitaker/Toney/Jones/Hopkins to name just a few held extended (ie. many defences over many years) "reigns of terror". Truth is, his boxing career WAS ended by Hearns in a pyrrhic (google that word...it's perfect here) "victory" over Hearns...What remains is a series of well-orchestrated, very lucrative, media-stunt show-matches (eg. after he--with the help of "beauty contest watching" judges WAS GIVEN the decision over Hagler...he defended not once--why should he, he pulled his stunt...retire again... and start fishing for the next big money "event". I bless whatever lord determines what becomes legend that it has never become popular for people to refer to him as the last unified middleweight before Hopkins--technically he took Hagler's titles--but as he had no intention of ever defending them and did nothing with them...I'm afraid to even mention this...all the RL fanboys will start referring to him as a great middleweight champ...with ZERO defences... RL was a great boxing talent/all-time great showman...but he never dominated a division as a full-time boxer. He was also super-smart...smart enought that after Hearns '82 his career really was over...but he proceeded to make amazing amounts of money and build up an amazing amount of mystique with surprisingly little risk (eg. the big-money bonus to force a 200#-plus celebrating-like-Maradonna Duran to lose 50 pounds in just weeks..."no mas", the super large "running track" against Hagler). Each successful stunt was, of course followed by a faking-retirement/next-big-payday-planning phase. And like suckers to a carnival, the public kept eating up all this. But serious fans don't buy it for a minute. Welcome aboard, Mosley.

SacTown1...I 'preciate your predictions (but I think Hopkins IS great for boxing--a true IN-THE-RING great...not a poser--even moreso if he wins). Taylor does represent the 'changing of the guard,,,but I really really respect ole' meat'n'potatoes Hopkins.

Boxing-related Tie-Breaker in Lame-Ass Sports If forced at gunpoint, I'd rather watch American football (or baseball) than watch a Johnny Ruiz clinch-fest. Watching cricket vs. watching Ruiz "fight"...the gun's starting to look not so bad. (btw, this will piss off a lot of "knee jerk" Ray Leonard fans...but really watch the three RL-Duran "fights" again...way too damn much clinching, and almost all of it initiated by RL...like a welterweight version of Ruiz...it's like he's thinkin' about his "Hearns souvenir" retina everytime the shorter/stockier guy moves in to do business.) Say "Leonard",and a true boxing fan immediately thinks "Benny". Say "Sugar Ray", and a true boxing fan thinks only "Robinson".

Thank you so much for listing the RIGHT Leonard, and the ONLY Sugar Ray belonging on such a list...you show you've actually watched the sport and aren't just spouting pop-culture legends...You could easily add Pryor, Whitaker, Hagler and Hopkins (whatever the outcome of this weekend's fight)...but not that manipulative poser RL.

"I went to the fights last weekend in Canada and a hockey game broke out..."

Ray Leonard is an all time great Welterweight.....I place him at about #4. Not an All time P4P great. I like to imagine what Armstrong would have done to alot of cats out there. Bang on 'bout Armstrong. Belongs on the VERY skinny end of anybody's p4p list...and to think that that poor bastard died washing dishes...

Lame-Ass Excuses for Sports...US 1, UK 1 US 1--American "Foot"ball...48 guys suited up so that 22 guys can spend 48 minutes whispering to each other with their bums in the air/and 12 minutes actually doing anything...including kneeling down after receiving a kick cause the rules let you be too wussy to run UK 1--Cricket...only "sport" in the world you can listen to a five minute report of...and not have a fukin' clue who won... It's basically baseball where you don't have to run out any of your lame ground balls...don't like it...hell, don't run, it doesn't count--only way to go down is to strike out or fly out...no wonder the goddam games go on for weeks

Last time I was in Ireland, the Euro was worth like $1.50. Best line ever 'bout exchange rates...spoken by an American comedian who liked travelling to their northern neighbor... "My penis is nothing to bragg about. I measured it once...exactly 6 inches, fully erect...then I figured out...hell, that's 9 inches Canadian.

I love national Rugby. The NZ All Blacks and the other South Pacific Teams are ridiculously entertaining. Wales and Ireland are great to watch too. If you like the standard 12- or even 15- man "crowded" game...man, you should see what happens when those same amazing atheletes get some serious room to boogy...Australia, NZ, Fiji, Western Samoa are amazing...super exciting, and all concentrated into two 7-minute non-stop, hi-scoring, halves. Unfortunately this game is limited to just a few tourneys a year...really popular one held in HongKong each year...one weekend's got more action than a whole season of NFL (btw, why not make those pansies run the kickoff out of their endzone or hit 'em with a 2-point safety when they resume on their '20'...and lord almighty, settle a playoff tie by OT PERIODS...NOT "sudden death"--great for hockey but insane for football)

Bang on 'bout Armstrong. Belongs on the VERY skinny end of anybody's p4p list...and to think that that poor bastard died washing dishes... Back to the topic...the restaurant was in the U.S.