Sure, genetics and environment have a lot to do with it, but so do the schools and the people that they're learning from. In Mexico, boxing has been popular for a long time and they have a certain way of training their fighters that is proven effective. Thus, a MAB can grow up in the suburbs in Mexico and become a much better boxer than a Bntosnian or African who had it rougher and is more athletically gifted.
Idk it's a tough argument..
I would love to see Pacquiao in a spelling contest.
"Mr. Pacquiao, could you please spell PED?"
"A-M-A-ask-my-promoter...A-M-A-he..bigger...size...than...me...blood...loss...is...weaken...me"
And I would love for floyd to be a bachelorette contestant just to see how long it would take before he beats one of those helpless girls or a security guard for that matter
So you would rather side with the "man" who destroyed the mother of his kids by beating her unconscious, the "man" who hits women in clubs because they ask for an autograph, the "man" who was kicked out of a Chillis restaurant because he was caught sniffing coke from the table and the "man" who almost choked his dad on national TV?
Okay.
Hell yea!! I rather side with Mayweather because he has always been that way you get what you see, he wasn't portraying some other character like Ortiz has til now. The only reason I liked Ortiz was because of him being humble and not talking out of his ass like most boxer's do today, but nooo as soon as he capture a title he turned into mr jackal thinking he owns boxing. Don't get me wrong if he would of always been like this I would of cared less, but he is trying to be something his not...all that fame is getting to him
wow...is that necessary? the weird hatred that ppl fhave for fighters for things they do outside the ring astonishes me.
Uhhh yea because I've purchased some of his fights, so therefore I'am entitle to say what ever da fuk I think about him
He was a great fighter especially considering his age. Well I take that back, maybe not GREAT but VERY GOOD. He couldn't beat Tito nor Oscar, but he gave them hell. Considering the circumstances he was still light years better at 21 than Canelo.
I get where you're coming from and part of it is true, but he couldn't even beat Mayorga come on Mayorga?? And as we all know Mayorga is no boxer he just swings wildly. Any real boxer with some kinda boxing skills would of beat him easily..
Boxingscene would shut down from the Traffic overload that would create..:luvbed:
There's a party in my pant's right now, you are invited (vip section) :grouphug:
Hahaha I have to see what you look like dude. Post a pic of that sexy ass.
As soon as I upload a picture of my cock they will remove it, it's pointless..
that was awesome and yes a bit of a cheap shot bcse he waited until the kid had finished terrorizing and wasn't looking not that i have a problem with it in all fairness he didn't deserve any better than that wait till his guard his down and blammo
<<< I want a beard like that :boxing:
Thats why I like the Mexican and for some part the Pinoy people, they show love. Like when RJJ came to Russia there was huge crowd just for him.
We all have respect!
Thats why Mexican fighters have ton of mexican fans and can draw 50k in mexico
Thats why Slavs can draw 50k in Poland/Slovenia/Ukraine/Russia and even in Germany, we all stand behind our fighters.
Even in Australia they show up. Even in UK.
In USA nobody supports anyone except foreigners :lol1:
co-sign :boxing:
If money really isnt an issue then go with winning.
If you want something with a tough leather good for punching then reyes
Soft leather good for speed and comfort then grants
Everlast pro tex are okay good bag gloves.
Fighting sports lace ups are also okay
Most boxinggloves are overpriced because its not like you can box without them.
I wear double a theyre form fit light and have a tough leather really good for sparring.
How about mexpro gloves?..or sum **** like that my friends are telling me those are pretty good to spar
Everyone's a "hater" these days. So because people point out that you punched someone in the dick 30 times and didnt get DQ'd, it makes them "haters" now....
Apparently..
Yeah, it's old. And Floyd fought Mosley who everyone said was going to kick Floyd's butt, yada, yada.
You mean the mostly who almost knocked Mayweather down in the early rounds? And how Mayweather couldnt knock him down or hurt him, well let me tell you........Pacquiao knocked his ass down, it seems like mostly was booty dancing the whole fight just backing that ass up around the ring
Dont make me have to post the mares' dick punching tutorial vid! Stfu this dude is a lame, and only knows how to low blow.
Dirty B i t c h I'm just posting his video, I never said I was on his side or agreed to what he did
I will give it that... it will be an entertaining and exciting night. I enjoy PPV nights and I'll admit that I believe this will be a very good PPV if Floyd comes to fight as well like he promised.
This is the 2nd decent opponent Floyd has faced in the past 6 years so it should an actual fight.
It will be one of the biggest upsets in boxing is all im gonna say..
If you peep boxrec, you'll see that he was weighing in at WW five years ago. Also, Freddie Roach said that he told Vic to move up a long time ago. Felt Ortiz was draining himself.
Dunno when that was.
Roach expected Ortiz to beat Berto because of the weight
by Michael Rosenthal
Apr 21st, 2011
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Count trainer Freddie Roach, Manny Pacquiao’s trainer, among those who weren’t surprised that Victor Ortiz beat Andre Berto last Saturday.
Roach’s reasons? The weight at which they fought and a sparring session with Manny Pacquiao in 2008, when Pacquiao was preparing to face David Diaz in a 135-pound matchup.
Ortiz moved up from 140 pounds to 147 for the Berto fight, which he won by unanimous decision to take the WBC welterweight title.
“I picked Victor to win because I like him at that weight,” Roach said Wednesday at an open workout to promote Pacquiao’s fight against Shane Mosley on May 7. “My reason is one day that he sparred with Manny Pacquiao when he weighed around 155 pounds.
“… He and Manny Pacquiao had one of the best sparring sessions I’ve ever seen in my life. Manny started to get to him at the end but it was a great sparring session. I told him then, ‘Victor, you’re killing yourself to make 140 pounds. You’re making yourself weak.’ I told him at 147 he’d be a better fighter.
“I told him that for years. I told him at 147 he’d be a more resilient, stronger, better fighter. It was like Manny Pacquiao killing himself to make weight. Making weight is overrated. Fight at a weight you’re comfortable at. It’s healthier and makes you a better fighter.
“Vic is a guy who walks around at around 165 pounds. To get down to 140 is too much."
Ortiz also sparred at Roach's Wild Card Boxing Club in the process of making the junior welterweight limit. Things didn't go as well.
"He got stopped by a body shot once and knocked down by a head shot once. I said a higher weight would be better for Vic, and it surely was," he said.
Roach was asked whether he ever questioned Ortiz’s courage after he quit against Marcos Maidana in 2009.
“He’s a tough kid,” Roach said. “I wouldn’t underestimate him.”
I agree I bet he would kill his body to make weight at 140..he seems like a natural 147-154lb kinda guy maybe even 160lb
read that with floyds voice in your hard lmao sounds just like em
.....well what can I say 42 have tried and uhh uhh 1 has uh uhh uhh...Hahaha then he looks at the camara with those sad puppy eyes " And yes pacquiao you are next"...."to whoop my candy ass" :dance:
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I placed a bet in this forum and outside of it that he was winning and by TKO. I think it will happen in the 6th round as well.. just a gut feeling. Too young, too fast and too strong. He just needs to go in with the heart and determination he went with to the Berto fight.
I truly believe that too, I wonder what Mayweather will say in the post interview lol