Prime Roy beats Hagler. Sorry - Hagler was a great warrior and a technician to boot, but Roy would box circles around him just like he did Hopkins.
I haven't seen anyone in my past 30 years or so of watching boxing at middle, super-middle or light heavy who could take a prime Roy. Maybe SR Robinson could have, but I never saw him live...
I have been watching a few of SRR's fights recently and the guy was amazing, I know a lot of his fights would have been easy for him but believe me he is worthy of the hype 'truly amazing'. I agree with all your comments above and it's nice to see Jones get credit for a change, I think Jones matches SRR skill for skill but if you watch SRR in action there is just somthing about him that is so special, I think for all the stick Jones has got lately I will also risk a lot of stick with this comment, and that is that I think a prime Jones V a Prime SRR at middleweight would have been the greatest matchup of all time and I only wish I could see it. I bet Jones wishes he stayed at 168 but you got to credit the guy for trying.
none of the guys he mentioned fought at 154,160,168
to me the most relevant (and malicious, since lotierzo usually know his stuff) omission is that jones lost at 35 and his style was based on speed
what was spinks doing at 35? retired
what was qawi doing at 35? he was 28-6-1
now if we go back to foster, moore, charles, tunney, well that's a bit different, these are ppl who regularly fought HW's and became HW champs or very close to, and moore and charles weighted around 160 at the beginning of their careers, so if you wanted to show someone that rjj is not the best fighter in the division sport these would be very good examples not spinks
The entire topic just annoys me, there are too may people on the RJ hate express right now, I watched Eubank on a recording the other day and laughed to myself because he is one of the guys they say Roy should have fought, but he never stood a chance at 168, I am british by the way and Eubank was a great fighter but all I am asking is why are so many people trying to take away RJJ's accomplishments, Nigel Benn's career ended at 168 to Malinga ending a potencial Benn V Jones anyway and Roylater KO'd Malinga who had never been knocked out, thats right people before Benn lost to Malinga RJJ V Benn was going to happen, Eunbank made a spirited effort at Cruiser but couldn't take it yet Roy went on the win a Heavyweight title. I think the time as come to take these things into consideration when judging one of the best natural talents boxing has ever seen.
I am so sick of the RJJ hate brigade, let me quote this guy
"spinks never lost at LTheavy"
So what he also never moved back down to LTheavy after becoming a heavyweight, he has a 31 fight record lost his last fight and never fought again, now I have nothing against spinks he was a great fighter but to use him as a example of how not so great Jones was is just ridiculous (don't quit the day job). Did spinks fight at Middleweight (no) Supermiddle (no), RJJ went from Middle all the way to Heavyweight and had 18 more fights than spinks, maybe we should have let Spinks fight 18 more times before judging him, this topic contradicts itself in every way, any fighter can retire on top (RJJ could have after Ruiz) but if they decide to fight on and loose do we stript there greatness no!, after fighting Merqui Sosa (number 31)RJJ KO'd Griffin RD1, Hill with a bodyshot, unbeaten Harding, unbeaten Gonzalez, unbeaten Kelly, TKO Woods and then WBA heavyweight champion. I think I made my point.