the 80s are known as the golden days of middleweight boxing, but i think the early mid 90's gang was just as good,
hagler v jones
duran v benn
leonard v mcclennan
hearns v eubank
Who would win these fights, i think the 90's would come out overall winners!
Calling Leonard and Duran legitimate Middleweights is silly anyway. I'd probably replace Duran with Barkley.
How about comparing 80's vs. 90's Welterweights?
Benitez, Leonard, Duran, Hearns
vs.
Trinidad, Whitaker, Quartey, De La Hoya
Where are Toney and Hagler. Anyhow, I agree that the early 90's had a better class of fighters. The 80's had better pound-for-pound fighters since Hearns, Duran, and Leonard all moved up through the weight classes.
Jones UD 12 Hagler.
A lotta people forget how powerful Jones was at middleweight. He went 22-0 with 20 kayos. That's a pretty big deal. Jones is definitely fast enough, and probably powerful enough to dsicourage Hagler. Hagler would try outjabbing Jones, which wouldn't work because Jones doesn't jab. He would jump in and jump out and confuse the hell outta Hagler, just like Hopkins.
Benn KO 5 Duran
The variables here are Benn's power and his chin. Duran hit hard enough to hurt Iran Barkley, but Roberto was never on the verge of stopping him. For my money, this looks a little like Duran-Hearns, except it lasts longer, and the end isn't as sudden, because Been wasn't the disciplined boxer that Hearns was.
McClellan KO 7 Leonard
McClellan was huge. He was also strong, and his incredibly hard. To me, this looks like Leonard vs. Howard, except this time Leonard doesn't get up. (Not that Howard and McClellan have similar styles, but I'm trying to help everyone get the picture in my head.)
Hearns KO 13 Eubank
Hearns wasn't at his peak at middle, but neither was Eubank, who really hit his stride at super middle. Eubank would hurt him early, even come close to knocking down. But after that Hearns backs off and starts to use his jab, dancing and making Eubank look stupid and feel frustrated. Then Hearns starts putting together combinations, two and three punches at funny angles, forcing Eubank to swing more wildly. Hearns beats him to the body then, and when round 13 comes, Hearns finishes with his long right hand.
The questions are wether Hearns recovers well from being hurt. After all, he didn't have the best recuperative abilities. But remember Hearns getting rocked by Roldan and Leonard? The only difference here is that Hearns finishes his opponent.
A prime Hagler was not the tired chasing Marvin who fought Ray Leanord. He was a fast pressure fighter who could jab and counterpunch you into oblivion. He would TKO Jones in the middle-late rounds.
I agree. A prime Hagler also had a great jab and could put his punches together well when he wanted to. His technical boxing skills are often overlooked IMO.
After ten years of being rated in the pound for pound top ten, titles in four different weight classes, one defense of his middleweight title, five defenses of his supermiddlweight title, and thirteen successful defenses at light heavy, you're calling Roy Jones a flash in the pan.
You can't be serious.
Whether he's overrated or not is up for debate, though not in my book, but there is no way a knowledgeable fan could call Roy Levesta Jones Jr. a flash in the pan. That's like calling Ivan Calderon fat or the Pope Protestant. It's just not true.
Boy, that Ivan Calderon...what a fat ass. :D
A prime Hagler was not the tired chasing Marvin who fought Ray Leanord. He was a fast pressure fighter who could jab and counterpunch you into oblivion. He would TKO Jones in the middle-late rounds.
"prime jones would beat hagler"
Hagler would heat his show boatin' ass up
imho.
jones to me is way to over rated
a flash in the pan
After ten years of being rated in the pound for pound top ten, titles in four different weight classes, one defense of his middleweight title, five defenses of his supermiddlweight title, and thirteen successful defenses at light heavy, you're calling Roy Jones a flash in the pan.
You can't be serious.
Whether he's overrated or not is up for debate, though not in my book, but there is no way a knowledgeable fan could call Roy Levesta Jones Jr. a flash in the pan. That's like calling Ivan Calderon fat or the Pope Protestant. It's just not true.
no james toney
or hopkins
anyway
jones would beat hagler
hagler wouldnt catch jones and if he did he wouldnt have hurt him unless he caught him with a few good shots or one thatw as enough to drop him
i think if hagler gets real close jones covers up and let hagler
go crazy
but jones at middle had enough speed and power to hurt hagler
Prime Roy beats Hagler. Sorry - Hagler was a great warrior and a technician to boot, but Roy would box circles around him just like he did Hopkins.
I haven't seen anyone in my past 30 years or so of watching boxing at middle, super-middle or light heavy who could take a prime Roy. Maybe SR Robinson could have, but I never saw him live...
I have been watching a few of SRR's fights recently and the guy was amazing, I know a lot of his fights would have been easy for him but believe me he is worthy of the hype 'truly amazing'. I agree with all your comments above and it's nice to see Jones get credit for a change, I think Jones matches SRR skill for skill but if you watch SRR in action there is just somthing about him that is so special, I think for all the stick Jones has got lately I will also risk a lot of stick with this comment, and that is that I think a prime Jones V a Prime SRR at middleweight would have been the greatest matchup of all time and I only wish I could see it. I bet Jones wishes he stayed at 168 but you got to credit the guy for trying.
the 80s are known as the golden days of middleweight boxing, but i think the early mid 90's gang was just as good,
hagler v jones
duran v benn
leonard v mcclennan
hearns v eubank
Who would win these fights, i think the 90's would come out overall winners!
1)Hagler vs. Jones - Jones in his prime could keep away from Hagler's power. A boxing Jones cruises to UD.
2)Duran vs Benn- Would be a tough bout but Duran was not in his prime as a middleweight. I'd have to say Nigel by late round TKO.
3)Sugar Ray Leonard vs Gerald "G-man" McClellan - Gerald was a freak of nature at Middleweight and would definately cause Ray problems with his hand speed and power. Ray would win the first 7 rounds but would take some punishment in the process. Gerald would catch Ray on the chin in the Tenth and Ray wouldn't be able to recover and complete a stunning come from behind TKO victory.
4)Hearns vs Eubank - Hearns was not at his prime as middleweight but would be able to keep Chris at bay with his jab and outbox him and finally finish him off with a wicked right cross in the 9th round.
Prime Roy beats Hagler. Sorry - Hagler was a great warrior and a technician to boot, but Roy would box circles around him just like he did Hopkins.
I haven't seen anyone in my past 30 years or so of watching boxing at middle, super-middle or light heavy who could take a prime Roy. Maybe SR Robinson could have, but I never saw him live...
Jones beats hagler, with marvin chasing him around the ring. Alot of ppl underestimate jones' power, because he does have good power. Although he wont hurt hagler, he mite take some of haglers legs with some body shots. BUt if hagler cathces jones with a good shot to the chin, and follows up with combos to the body. Jones loses all his confidence and the fight.
Hagler Jones depends on whether the fight goes 15 or 12 and whether Jones can stay away from Hagler for long enough. I think Hagler would finally catch up to Roy and TKO him late. Jones wouldn't hurt Marvin. It could also possibly be a Jones UD if it went 12...
Benn beats Duran at middle.
McClellan beats SRL at middle.
Hearns beats Eubank at middle.
the 80s are known as the golden days of middleweight boxing, but i think the early mid 90's gang was just as good,
hagler v jones
duran v benn
leonard v mcclennan
hearns v eubank
Who would win these fights, i think the 90's would come out overall winners!
prime jones would beat hagler
duran would beat benn
not sure about mcclennan and leonard
and hearns would beat eubank
there was a very different style of fighting between the 80s and 90s, IMO the 80s depended a lil more on decisions whilst in the 90s they were all about the TKO