He's definitely a p4p guy for me, he's one fight away from cleaning out his division, has done it the hard way beating 9 undefeated fighters in his 21 fights. His last 5 opponents have a combined record of 100-2-2. He has the most well rounded skillset in the sport, outboxes boxers out bangs pressure fighters. On pure talent he's right up there with Bud, Shakur and Boots. If they can make the fight with MJ happen and he beats him like I would expect him to he should be on everyone's top 10 list if not top 5. If Inoue moves up and they can somehow make that fight happen I'd expect him to wash the Monster too.
A lot of people think Inoue will just stomp him, but I think Fulton wins by wide decision as well. I see it happening the way mayweather defeated Pac-Man. Inoue will get in there with a guy who has excellent boxing ability, speed that rivals his own as well as a boxing iq and footwork that are some of the best in the game. Fulton will keep him at bay with his jab, which is arguably the best jab in boxing today. Controlling the distance will not be that difficult, and when monster gets close, he can clinch. Just don’t see a way monster beats him. When two elite fighters go against each other, the physical attributes normally decides the factor.
Floyd was scared of Margarito imo and it wasn't because of wraps, if the late great Naazim Richardson could bust Margarito with illegal wraps, I highly doubt Margarito is getting past Floyd Sr., Roger, Jeff Mayweather with illegal wraps.
Floyd backed out of the Margarito fight with 8 million on the table, his highest payday at that time, to cherrypick Carlos Baldymir for the same 8 million.
Foolish posts like this are why people think Floyd was a cherry pick. Your trying to tell me that in 2006, the guy who upset unified welterweight champion zab Judah and was riding like an 11 win fight streak was a cherry pick over a guy that no one really knew that had no real accolades or accomplishments? NOBODY wanted margacheato vs Floyd in 06.
Pac s greater, nobody cares what cott o and ssm say, the world saw for themselves, we saw it with our own eyes Pac stop cott o and beat ssm for 12 rounds, whilst Floyd goes life and death and nearly gets koed by 39 year old and gets bloody nose. Nobody cares the words they say, we saw with our own eyes, which spoke volumes, more then empty words with no basis ever could.
History will clearly see Pac is greater because what the world saw Pac do to cott o and ssm, being a former light flyweight, and not from what cott o and ssm say! Even if Hatton and and dlh said Floyd was best overall, it wouldn't matter, because we saw with our own eyes how Pac destroyed Hatton and dlh more dominant than floyd ever could
Floyd virtually shut Shane mosely out. Other than round 2, on scorecards he lost every round lol, what do you mean life and death? And also, cotto was not weight drained for Floyd he was Pac-Man.
Sounds like Fulton is ducking Aleem. A real fighter will battle the next man in line. He would never make it in the old days when the best fought the best. What a big p u s s y. I lost all respect for Fulton. Aleem worked his way to this position to fight for title, now this chump won’t give him a chance. A true duck!!!
No, he has not. His mandatory is Daniel Roman, that is the fight that makes the most sense if not figs rematch or MJ. What has Aleem done to prove he is one of the best? He looked winded and terrible against his last opponent.
Figueroa landed 314 shots, even when someone lands on your arms as he claims, it's still a shot landed, the only time it doesn't count is when you miss, if it lands on your body, it's a landed shot. And that was to Fulton body, not arms. And to make things worse for him, he was hurt on six different occasions, no draw, it was a clear win for, Figueroa, anyone who says otherwise, is blind, or a Homer.
Have to disagree with this logic. Landing on arms do not count as scores punches. If that was the case, all fighters connect percentages would be in the high 50s to 60s as everyone would simply swing nonstop to connect. No disrespect but you sound like you don’t understand how to score boxing rounds and you may need to check the rule book before making comments like this.
This is what I posted just a few secs ago in another Ryan thread:
"People who talk about 'undisputed' and that garbage stuff should remember that the concept itself includes some kinda tournament where you beat many of your contemporaries, not just one fighter. In this case, not even a good one, a bum. I'm not blaming Haney for anything. What is is tho."
Completely agree with Ryan. Kudos.
that just isn’t true. The concept of undisputed is to say you are THE champion in a weight class. It isn’t about having a “tournament”, it’s simply saying that none can dispute me as a champion. By this logic, if one guy has destroyed all his opposition in the weight class and then loses to someone else, the new champion is not the best in the division even tho he beat the guy who was considered the absolute best.
Roman would beat Fulton worse than Figueroa did just like he beat MJ as the defending champ while injured and they took his belts.
Lol that post fight interview was the best you can tell a fighter knows they didn't truly win when they stutter and then say we can run it back not confident at all Fulton's face said it all. You hate Mexicans so of course your going to say Fulton won so it's whatever.
No, your boy claimed he would run it back then said he will go to 126. He knows he lost that fight, first he claim he hurt him 5 times, then hurt him 6. Timothy Bradley beating Pac-Man, that was a robbery. If you can sit here and say that Figueroa dominated Fulton and should have won, you need to reevaluate your boxing knowledge.
It’s really funny when you see who the internet’s favorite fighter is on certain message boards. There are people in here that really are trying to act like yarde didn’t win a round. Wow…
Is he under the impression he’s facing pitty-pat Figueroa punches?
The same pitty pat punches that knocked out 18 men in 24 victories? I’ve seen many Inoue fans say figueora is “pillow fisted” and “doesn’t punch hard”, are y’all trolling or are you really this casual?
inoue is superior to fulton in every aspect / except for maybe size. for all those who think fulton is this unhittable slick boxer…? go back and watch the figueroa fight. inoue has so many more tools than figueroa, its not even comparable. lol
just a terrible take. This fight was close as it was due to physical size of figueora. Watch the fig fights on YouTube right now. Fulton held a man that threw 1060 punches, I would say 900+ on the inside, to less than 315 punches landed. That is the definition of slick. If you are using fig fight to say inoue wins east, you’re going to be in for a long night. Ironically, inoue said the only Fulton fight he had saw was against fig, and then he came out and said the fight will be a great technical battle and he wonders if he can close the distance and keep it t where he wants.
Canelo was very green when he faced Floyd who was a well preserved 36 yr. Canelo was also weight drained like crazy for that fight that coupled with Floyd's experience and handling of the officials Canelo never had a chance.
Prime for Prime canelo would be at 160-168 too big too good for Floyd.
He wasn’t weight drained like crazy lol he had to weigh in at 152 instead of 54. Then he was allowed to rehydrate to whatever he wanted, which he came in fight night at over 165 lbs. He wasn’t drained, he just couldn’t win lol.
Please stop. Ennis has been calling everyone out since way back while fighting 5’4 bums.
I said he has been calling everyone out. I don’t understand why you quoted me?
PBC ain’t doing no fight with MJ. Fulton needs to vacate or give Aleem a shot. PERIOD!!! If he don’t then Fulton the biggest duck in boxing at the moment.
Lol he is the biggest duck for not fighting this scrub aleem? Lol there is literally nobody other than aleem that says Fulton is running from him. Fulton would dominate him easy as he picks him off from those wide shots.
Fulton's defense really isn't all _that_ great. Not sure why some people seem to have the impression that he's like the second coming of Mayweather, defensively.
I don’t think anyone is saying he is the second coming of mayweather. Defensively he is a tier below the andrades, bivols, and Stevenson’s. But his defense is definitely a great attribute. If Fulton chose to avoid engaging like he did when he fought leo and figueora, Fulton would statistically be in compubox top 10 in opponents land percentage. Most of his fights he is holding guys to under 20% landing rate. I’ve seen ppl say he gets hit to much, but when i ask that question of who tags him so easily, they always say Figueroa and Leo. I always ask if they can name at least one more fight where he was consistently tagged and they never can give me another name. I saw someone say khegai, but looking at the fight and the stats, that just isn’t true.
So now that you have a fight scheduled you decide to call out ortiz? :lol1: what a clown
rofl, so boots is ducking ortiz now? Same ortiz who said that fight was years down the line? Can’t make this stuff up lol
And just how many fighters have we crowned as "the next" guy to dominate? And how many times has that not come to pass? You guys get on here and "love bomb" the first undefeated fighter you see, then talk crap about him when things don't go as planned.
Again, stop getting all excited about a fighter who hasn't proven himself yet. They ALL get a chance to prove themselves at some point, his time just isn't right now- there's bigger fish to fry at 147.
You can mask your foolishness with your Sweet Pea memories....I'm talking about the present moment. Too many of you are using past standards to try and define what goes on in the sport today....it's okay to grow with the times. Yes, some things do change over time, but as we've seen in boxing....not much changes when it comes to how fickle fans are.
Honestly this doesn’t make any sense. Are you insinuating that in the 2020’s, it is no longer possible to watch a fighter skills and make a realistic assessment as to if they will become elite before they fight “top talent”? Nothing changed about that at all. He watched sweet pea and knew he would be special, that doesn’t change at all. There are fighters that you can tell will be legit talents, that will go on long after we are dead and forgotten and that never changes.
Inoue vs. Butler is occurring in December.
This is a clear duck by Fulton despite calling out the smaller man's name repeatedly for clout.
"I better get out of here before homeboy moves up"
If this isn’t revising history I dunno what is. You fans claimed Fulton would lose to inoue. He was asked about inoue, he has NEVER called inoue out in any interview or news clip. Fulton wanted the MJ fight more than anything, that’s how I know you just lied. Also, the fact that your calling Fulton that your calling Fulton a duck against a guy who can’t legally move to the next weight class until his next fight is over also doesn’t make any sense. Inoue fanboys are really starting to remind me of the pactards from the early 2010s
Wow props to Fulton for taking this fight. Dude’s got cojones.
Roman wins though :boxing:
I’ve got Fulton winning this comfortably. I think he goes back to leading with his jab, movement, and boxing. Like I got this being an 8-4 or 9-3 type of fight with Fulton coming out clear victor.
He, like you, started bitching about the loss. Fulton said run it back and he responded he wasn’t afraid, then went back to his 126 bs. He is afraid that Fulton will tax that ass even worse. If he doesn’t want a rematch that Fulton is offering, then both of you stfu about it, it’s that simple. Bet you if Fulton moves to 26 he will stay clear away from Fulton because he will get his ass beat again.
Had to give Floyd incentive not to duck. Floyd should have replied I don't n3ed advantages to beat you and I'll fight you at 154
This is fraudulent. In no way is Pac-Man considered top3 atg and Floyd not even top 10 lol. Your just a biased Pac-Man fan if you would spew this nonsense.
Conor Benn vs Jaron Ennis then.
I'll even take Virgil Jr for him.
But stop with this big talk while fighting journeymen. Stop mentioning Spence and Bud when you're fighting unnoticeable opponents.
well tell those opponents to step up and fight him. Ennis wants to fight the top guys, but these fighters that you all keep saying he needs to fight? They won’t fight him. Keith Thurman was just pretending he didn’t know Ennis even existed just 6 months ago, but I don’t see you coming for him.
ridiculous statement. Donaire even older is levels above Fulton in every single category and Inoui smashed him last time out. If his power carries I expect Inoui to stop him inside 6 with relative ease. Fulton will get drawn into a dog fight and will get stopped. It’s Fulton who’s never faced a fighter of Inoui’s level before not the other way at around.
Inoui is the best offensive fighter since pacquiao bar none. In fact many similarities stylistically.
LMAO. You really believe this nonsense? Lol do you even watch Stephen Fulton? Lol imagine someone saying 2023 Nonito donaire is better than Stephen Fulton in every aspect of boxing, levels above?
And who have you fought? LOL
He hasn’t fought anyone at all! Just two undefeated world champions and took both of their belts. He then followed up fighting those bums by beating the former unified champion in his division that also happened to be ranked number 3. But hey, matter fact aleem has the better resume!
The Fulton beating inoue prediction is spot on. I have said this multiple times, Fulton’s skills are going to be a culture shock to inoue. Facing someone who has possibly better pure athleticism, near your hand speed and also high iq is a problem. Ppl saying inoue walks through Fulton early will see.
Waiting to be given a title. 30 fights.
Boots, no smoke, Ennis
Right, he never wanted to fight Spence or Crawford. Makes a lot of sense, just wondering what title should he pursue?
Fulton was hurt multiple times by a slow puncher and a decent boxer figueroa. Inoue will touch fulton once or twice and it will be lights out. Inoue is too fast and he is the hardest 1 punch fighter in the sport after wilder. Whilst fulton was still decisioning bums, inoue won the wbss ali trophy and cemented himself top 3 p4p. Whilst a 21 year old inoue knocked out narvaez who had double digit defenses and lost only once to donaire via decision, fulton was still an amateur. Inoue is too fast and powerful, and his boxing skills are severly underrated.
The problem with Inoue fans is that you guys try to discredit threats to him. You said fulton was hurt multiple times by a slower puncher but conveniently left context out of it. You failed to mention that Figueroa is much bigger than fulton and fights a bully style of boxing where he uses his stature to back his opponents into the ropes and brawl inside all night. You failed to mention that fulton was outmuscled and yet still beat fig at his own game. You said fulton was beating bums while inoue won that Ali trophy by beating donaire. Since those “bums”, he has beaten two undefeated fighters, took both of their belts, and the defended against the number 3 guy in his division. Also, Fulton has beaten 3 straight guys ranked in the top 10 in ring magazine.
Its ok to praise a fighter without trying to discredit others to build confidence in your fighter winning. Inoue getting in that ring with Fulton will be the toughest fight he will ever have. He has never seen someone with the reach and height advantage that possesses speed, reflexes, and a ring iq that Fulton has. Unlike fig, inoue does not have the physical stature and strength to bully Fulton, so what the “slower boxer” did, inoue cannot do. Tell yourself Fulton is easy work all you want, you will be in for a world of hurt if this match happens.
Cards as follows: 119-109, 120-108 X2, UD for Fulton. Cards a bit too wide, but clear win for Fulton
To wide? Roman only won the 2nd round lol, and that was actually a close round. He was thoroughly dominated and outboxed every round I had it 11-1 Fulton.